All right, what's going on people?
Happy Friday.
What's going on, Joyce?
How are you?
Decio?
Nick?
What's going on, buddy?
You always look so sharp, man.
Jeez.
He's got like the perfect goatee.
That's awesome.
Oh, man.
Happy Friday, guys.
Let's see, people are going to start spilling in now.
There's Ray.
I'll let Ray in.
Let's see.
I'm flattered you guys are like joining me on a Friday.
This is awesome.
I'm thinking this better be good.
Like if people are committing to being here on a Friday night, this better be good.
Kalia, what's going on?
Hey, good afternoon.
Good to see you.
You have some secrets to tell us, don't you, Peter?
Some new secrets?
There's all sorts of stuff I'm going to tell you guys, man.
Oh, my gosh.
There's some really cool stuff we're going to share.
I'm actually going to share some scams that have been going on to make sure you guys don't
get in trouble because there's a number of scams that are going on currently and people
are not aware of it.
Let's see.
Ray, don't worry about it.
Just leave it the way it was working.
It was working fine before.
If all you're doing is changing that ticket, don't worry about it.
Oh, no, that's changed.
I just realized that now we need to tag them and we had to go create a tag, add the tags,
all that stuff.
Don't worry about that for now.
I mean, you can do it while we're running here, but everything will work out.
Everything will work out.
Don't worry about it.
Yeah, I just didn't know if I needed to add an excerpt on the bottom there for them to
see that was included.
Yeah, no, I mean, feel free to do that as I'm running.
You can go ahead and do that.
That's fine.
We'll know what you're doing.
What's up, Patty?
How are you?
Good to see you.
I have no idea if you guys are aware of just how much you guys have learned so far.
I was actually going through my notes.
Oh, my gosh.
We covered way more than we usually cover.
Usually when I end the training, I go, okay, I think that's enough, and then I stop.
And then I was looking at what I have here.
I think we've done about one and a quarter to one and a half what we usually do, and
it's usually a lot.
I know Patty knows because she was in this before, so she can testify to it being more
than we usually do.
But what I find is usually it's because there's something about the people that are
there.
They draw it out of me.
I just kind of know they're going to need this.
They're going to need that.
And so I just share those things.
And I think there's a lot of real business people here, not just speculators, not
people that are thinking, oh, yeah, it'd be cool to learn IP.
These are people that are actually in the world doing things, and they have things they're
potentially going to be protecting.
Hey, Jacob.
Good to see you, buddy.
Good to see you up and about.
It's awesome.
I just got out of a meeting with my commodore from Guam.
Nice.
That's awesome.
Basically, you would know him as the CEO of the company.
I'm just glad to see you moving around and not dripping.
That's awesome.
Shanice, good to see you.
I love that color.
That's awesome.
She's always sharp.
That's good.
All right.
So let's see.
I'm going to give it like another minute or two for people to get in and we'll jump
in.
Yeah, one of the things I was sharing is that I was looking at my notes and different things
that as I'm speaking about things, I'll jot them down.
I covered this.
Yep.
Covered that.
Got it.
And then I was looking at it, and I was like, man, we've covered like one and a quarter
to one and a half what we usually do, which means you guys have got to be in the thick
of it.
These aren't people that are speculating about maybe I need to know about IP.
You guys must be in the thick of it.
Otherwise, all this stuff would not be coming out.
So let me see what's going on in the chat.
So what you're saying is that there are people out there who don't just spectate law.
They actually like to learn it.
Yeah, something like that.
It's like picking up dictionaries.
Oh, my gosh.
All right.
Ray wants to buy a black.
All right.
So here now you guys get to learn what's going on on the back end.
we don't really fill the public in. You guys apparently become family because you're learning
about what's going on in the back end. Ray emails me asking me about Black's Law Dictionary. Now,
I've been an attorney for 25 years. She says, I want to buy Black's Law Dictionary. So I respond
saying, what in the world has possessed you to want to buy a dictionary, like an $85
dictionary on the law? Which was cheaper than my last one. My last one was like $115,
I think. And this one has the nuances of all the histories of the adjustments within
every single word that it defines, and how it changed in the legal realm,
on top of new technological updates. I'll send you a dictionary for Christmas. How's that?
A dictionary you think I don't need. So I tell Peter that, you know, don't judge me. Sometimes
people are that nerdy. We want to sit around. He likes to sit around reading terms and conditions
instead of binging on Netflix. I like to pick up law dictionaries and read them.
So maybe we should call this the nerd network instead. It'd be a lot easier. So I think I'm
going to get started here. There's a number of things I want to cover today that are really
important. First of all, I want to celebrate all of you. I know other people are going to be
jumping in, but I want to get started because there's a few things I want to cover here.
Dictionary ornaments. That's hilarious. Yeah, that's good, Joyce. Let's see. I'm going to make
you co-host. You're co-host. Good. All right. Now I can get moving here. So
there's a number of things that have been going on in the industry, and there's a lot of fraud
going on. So I'm going to make you aware of some different scams that are going on so you and your
companies don't get exposed to them. In addition, I just want to share something with you because I
received some feedback from a few different people who really want to keep going with this
network. Let me just share something with you guys, and then we'll jump into some subject matter
material. So I made something available for you because I was trying to figure out how to make
things more accessible to you. So I'm making something available to you. So this is an
individual who actually was in one of our challenges, and so I just want to share something
that she's saying here. What I should do, though, is I'm going to share the audio too.
Share the screen and the audio. There we go. Okay. Now we're all waiting to you as well.
You should go right to the front. Okay, go for it.
I was just kind of going to have to reiterate some of the things everybody else said where,
you know, we are brilliant at what we do. Most of us are. A lot of us here are already in business,
and so we know how to set up a business, work the business, provide value. What we didn't know was
how to protect the business that we have been setting up. So I just think this is absolutely
brilliant for those of us who are in business, but even more brilliant for anybody who's even
just thinking. They have one iota of a thought. I think I want to start my own business. This is a
brilliant cost, and I was figuring it out. You know, it's 600 bucks an hour for Peter. We're
getting at least 10 hours if you're in VIP. We're actually getting more because he's so generous
with his time, but that's $6,000. You know, we're getting this at 95% off if we were to hire him to
get all of this information. According to me, I'm sure everybody else would agree, he's not holding
anything back. It's not like, oh, I'm only going to tell him this, and then I'm going to make him
do this to get the rest of it. He's just giving it all to us. For some of us, it's very
overwhelming. Some of us, it's our second time, so it makes a lot more sense. I would say for people
who are hearing it for the first time, they'll watch the replays, right? Because, you know,
give it a week or so, go through and watch the replays again, and things start to click. Like,
oh, I get it. Yeah, that makes more sense, but the VIP really was where it's at.
Okay. What I wanted to share in what she said, this is really important, is that
you have the replays, okay? We've gone through a lot, like a lot of material,
and so as you're trying to kind of, you're thinking of a certain concept, and you're saying,
is this a common law issue? I have this trademark, and this other party, you know,
it says they have a federal registration. I don't remember exactly. You've got the replays,
all right? So, just remember, like, as you're actually implementing things within your own
business, you're going to find that you're going to have a lot of questions. Now that things have
been exposed, now that you've learned that there is a way to own what you're creating.
creating, you're gonna wanna make sure
that things are properly ordered.
And so you're gonna have future questions.
You're gonna have a lot of questions.
I know this because that's one of the reasons
why we created the protection portal in the first place.
So what I've decided to do for all of you
is how many people would like to just kind of keep
this experience going where you can ask your own questions,
get feedback as your company's growing.
Like just by a show of hands,
how many people are just interested in something like that?
That's kind of what I figured.
All right, so this is what I did.
I was talking to Ray about this.
I was talking to the team yesterday.
And so what we decided to do
is to offer something extra for you guys.
Just because you guys are,
you guys have more like practical experience than usual.
Usually it's people are trying to learn a subject matter,
but you guys are actually doing stuff in business.
So for that reason, this is what we're gonna do.
Part of the network in itself,
we're gonna make it available to you guys, all right?
So what I mean by that is that I have two major networks,
like two well-known major networks.
The first one is called the protection portal.
That protection portal is paramount to business success.
For a full year, you end up in this group
where once a month I go live for an hour and a half,
answer everybody's questions, people email questions.
We go over them live.
Like this is like having a, well, it is.
It's having an expert in your pocket
and not being billed for it.
That's essentially what it is.
So as you're implementing the things that you've learned,
you can continue to get feedback.
You can continue to ask questions
and you're not gonna be billed for it separate.
That's an amazing feature as a business owner myself.
Like today I called up Jim Reedy,
the head of she and Finney Bass and Green
where I used to work.
And he's the head of the employment law division.
I just called him up and said, hey, I got a question.
Do I need this thing for my employees?
And he says, hold it, let me look that up.
He goes, looks it up, gives me an answer.
I should have been billed $1,200 for that phone call.
I got billed nothing, all right?
Because he had to do legal research.
He did this and that.
That's essentially what we're making available
to you guys for a full year.
What we're gonna do is we're gonna make that available
to you for $24.95, all right?
Or you can split it into three payments of $9.95.
So what I think I'm gonna do, Ray,
is let me pull up the feature
just so they can see it real quick
and then I'm gonna start training.
I just felt really led to do this for people.
Now there's a difference between the audit and this, okay?
This is a feature of the audit,
but there are some people that just need that network now.
Like they're just saying, look, I'm implementing things now.
I just need to be in a group of individuals
who are educated, who are implementing things,
who can share their resources with each other,
who will become smarter together
and become highly successful together.
And that's what's happening in that network now.
I've had a few people stop by.
There's another person who will be stopping by later today.
She's become a number one author.
She's in the network.
I mean, these people that are in there are pretty remarkable.
And then the other part is when you need a lawyer
in a specific area, you can tell me
and I can have them be a guest for you at no cost.
I have complete control over this network
and I can use all my resources to help you guys.
So this is my outreach.
This is my big outreach program for you guys.
So I'm gonna share something with you quickly
just so you can see what's in it.
Take a minute and then we'll move over to some training.
But I think this is really important
because the people in this specific challenge
are implementing things already.
And some of you may not be doing the audit yet
but you wanna continue to be in this network.
And this is what I'm gonna make available to you
after consulting on this with Ray and other team members.
So here's what we got.
These are the features of it.
You'll get the link for it
but these are the features of it.
The first feature is for a full year
you have access to the Protection Portal.
Once a month I go live for an hour and a half.
It's essentially 18 plus hours of training
because I can tell you as a fact, I never stop on time.
In case you haven't figured that out this whole week,
I never stop on time.
So if people have questions, I just answer them.
So as you're selling things on eBay,
as you file your first trademark application
and you get a rejection and you say,
well, what does this mean?
You can just bring your questions in
and get your questions answered.
and not worry about it.
What my intent is to make legal consultation
available to everybody instead of just a select few.
And that's what this does for a full year.
In addition, you get access to my IP associates
around the world, regardless of what country you go into.
I have lawyers in every single country of the world.
Then on top of that, you can email questions
that I'll go over once a month.
And then there's these other bonuses that we added.
So you get the challenge replay videos for a full year.
If you're in VIP, you get those replay videos
for a full year.
As long as you're in the Protection Portal,
you have access to all your videos.
You also get access to every Protect Your Idea challenge
for that whole time at no cost.
We talked about the lawyers already.
And then I'm gonna show you one last thing here,
which is the Protection Portal itself,
where the videos are stored.
So let me pull this up real quick so you can see it.
Stop my share.
And then we'll jump into some content.
And again, I'm doing this because you guys
are more practical than, meaning you guys
are more like business people than most.
Most of the time, we have people that are just trying
to learn a topic, and this is a little different.
This group's a little different, so.
All right, so let me go here.
Okay, this here that I'm sharing with you
is what you receive access to.
This is called the Members Portal, okay?
We have every single challenge that we've run here,
all of them in here.
The VIPs, the trainings themselves.
So you'll see all the Protection Portal videos
that are there.
Now, when you become a member,
you're only gonna have access to your challenge videos,
your VIPs, and then the Protection Portal videos
from that date going forward.
There is a way to get access to the other stuff.
We can talk about that separate.
But I just want you to see that you're gonna get
your own login, and then you just come in
and you just, you'll see your videos are accessible.
You just click on the day, and boom, there's your video.
You can actually watch the videos.
You can write comments on the videos.
All right, well, welcome everybody to day number four.
And you can submit comments on it.
Different people actually compare notes.
There's all sorts of things you can do in that.
This is a private network.
It's called the Protection Portal.
The only ones who have access to the Protection Portal
are the actual people who take membership
in the Protection Portal.
But here you can see every single video
that's listed for every challenge all the way down,
and you'll have access to your own stuff, okay?
Does that, just out of curiosity,
does that sound like it's helpful for you guys?
Yeah, okay, cool.
That's what we're basically giving you guys, all right?
That whole thing is $24.95.
Now, the IP audit, what the IP audit is,
just so you understand the difference between the two,
I'll just show you one slide that Ray put together,
which was a great idea on her part.
She says, let's make it really easy
for people to understand.
Ray created this.
Brilliant idea.
So these are all the features of the Protection Portal
on the right-hand side.
We've gone through all the features here.
We just did it.
What Foundations and IP adds is the one-on-one.
So one-on-one with me for up to three hours
to go through your company,
figure out everything that's going on in your company,
and what goes first, what you should implement,
how you should protect, what rights you have already,
what people you should work with,
what businesses you should work with,
what legal agreements you need,
analyzing your legal agreements,
trademark searching live,
helping you with application, all sorts of stuff.
Everything's included in there.
It also includes a trademark application filing,
a trademark search,
and membership in the Protection Portal.
So the Foundations and IP package is over-encompassing,
includes the Protection Portal, plus everything else.
So that is the difference between the two, okay?
Does that make sense?
All right, Ray, you had a question,
and then I want to jump into subject matter.
Go ahead.
You have to unmute.
I didn't know if you want to do it live,
so I threw it in the chat there,
because you added another bonus
to sweeten it up even more.
Oh, I totally forgot.
Giving them the support they need.
Okay.
I didn't, I didn't want to say this because I didn't want to make it more confusing.
But how many people here are in AI deal with AI just out of show of hands,
anybody? All right. So nobody here does AI. All right. Two people. Yeah. Okay.
So maybe two people would deal with AI.
Here's what I'm doing now for the people that are taking this offer,
either the protection portal or the foundations and IP
package. We're going to give you membership in. All right. Sierra does as well.
Sierra is my daughter's name, by the way. I love that name. Such a cool name.
So we're going to add for you membership in
what's called a loon. It's the AI legal update network.
It meets once a month. And we talk only about AI,
only about what are the good programs. What are the issues with using AI,
how you can get around certain legal problems.
We're including that at no cost.
That's ridiculous. Just so you're aware. Cause that program,
Patty knows that program alone goes for a thousand dollars for six months.
So we're adding that in.
So what you're essentially getting is if you go into the foundations and IP
package, or if you go into the protection portal alone,
you're going to receive free membership in a loon.
And a loon is going to keep you updated every month on how the law is changing,
what programs you should use, not use,
what procedures you should do and not do when it comes to AI software. Okay.
By doing that, I think we've got you covered. Honestly,
I can't think of anything else that you guys would need that essentially will
allow you guys to continue doing business and do be highly successful and have
resources at the,
at your fingertips without having to find them.
And then if you get in a situation where you run into a certain legal issue and
you need somebody, just let me know.
I can see if I can have that person be a guest during one of the,
one of the sessions. So you'll be able to learn from them as well. Okay.
So with that, does that help you guys? Is that good? All right, cool.
That's what we put together for you. A timeline.
The foundation is an IP package you have until midnight tonight to
take that. Cause that includes the audit.
That's the most time heavy thing on my side.
Cause I need to spend like a good two,
three hours with you and analyze your whole company and everything that you're
doing to get you set straight. I do that for corporations around the world.
I do that for MIT. I've done it for Harvard.
I've done it for like large corporations, constant contact and others.
I'll be doing that with you directly to set you and your company straight or
whatever you want to do as a business. So by tonight midnight,
you need to take part in that.
But the offer for the protection portal alone,
which is to stay in this network to continue to ask questions,
get answers continuously. That's open until Monday at midnight.
Is that right? So it's open until Monday at midnight.
So that allows you guys,
if you have to go to your banks or something like that on Monday,
you can do that. Okay. But all this stuff,
you can do it on multiple payments.
So we're trying to make this as accessible to you as possible. Okay.
With that, I'm going to stop the discussion of, of that feature.
And I want to go into some specific subject matter.
If you have questions, just stay on afterwards.
I received this in the mail today. Okay. This, this letter,
it's from a company called W T M R
LLC. Now what I'm going to do,
I wonder if what I can do, actually, you know what I'm going to do.
It has my personal information on it,
but I'm going to post it for you anyway,
because I think it's really important for you to see what they did.
Apparently they didn't realize I'm a lawyer. Okay. That's a,
it's a bad idea to try to pull a scam on a lawyer.
So I'm going to show you what they did.
My wife actually scanned it and emailed it to me.
My wife is always looking out for you guys too.
You guys will get to know Bonnie when you go into the protection portal.
She's always like, I think they need this. I think they need that.
So funny.
Why don't you shoot it over to me and messenger?
Give me a minute to protect your information. And then,
well, you talk about it, right? Honestly, I'm not worried about it.
I'll send it to you anyway, but I'm not worried about it.
People would just be silly to try to do something. It just against me.
It's just not smart. I'm not worried about it.
So here is the file downloaded.
And I want you to look out for these things.
I'm going to show you why it's a scam.
There's a 17th downloads.
Okay, and open.
What?
Really?
Preview, can I preview it?
It won't even let me preview it.
That's funny, it won't let me open it.
All right, Ray, I just sent it to you.
Can you just open it and share your screen?
All right.
This is really important.
I need you guys to see this
because it's very clever wording that people are using
and they're making hundreds of thousands of dollars
off of people that don't understand what they're doing.
So I just, I wanna make sure you're aware of this.
Did you get the email?
It's at support.
Okay.
But basically what they do is on the document,
I don't know why I can't open it, it's kind of weird.
It's interesting too that it's not arriving in my inbox.
It's not going to your inbox?
Yeah, I don't have it.
That's extremely strange.
All right, well, Lord, remove any opposition, please.
And let's get rolling on this.
I forwarded it to, yeah, I'll forward it this way instead.
Let's see if this helps you.
Look at that, it won't let me forward.
Oh, wow.
That's crazy.
But anyways, I guess we're just gonna have
to not be able to show it, so, wow.
Anyways, I'll show it to you guys on the screen,
but all right, so on this document, you see the trademark.
You see the trademark Protect Your Idea Challenge?
You see that?
Everybody's familiar with that trademark, obviously.
You see that right underneath it, registration fee,
and on it, it has a dollar amount, right there.
$980, I think it is, it's about $980.
Next to it, it lists my, now look,
this is my actual recitation of services.
That's the international class that I filed on.
Those are the exact, that's the exact services
that I filed on, okay?
Those are the goods and services.
That's my actual serial number from my filing.
It's the real serial number, it's not made up.
That's the exact serial number.
That's the exact filing date on it.
So it looks like-
Back up just a little bit, it's a little too close,
so it's blurry.
Let's see if you guys can see it.
Can you see it now?
Let the camera adjust.
It hasn't adjusted yet, I think you're too close.
Yeah, but anyways, it's all exactly,
that is exactly my filing date.
That's exactly my serial number.
That's my trademark.
That is my home address right there.
You guys can look it up online, so I'm not worried about
that, and then it looks official.
See, it has like a logo there, WTMRLLC, right?
Okay, so now what it says here is,
the law considers a trademark to be a form of property.
A trademark is an important component
of your successful business marketing strategy.
Protecting your trademark against confusing similar names
is your responsibility.
The above-mentioned data represents a sample
of your trademark registration.
By paying the amount indicated, you accept this offer
and approve the listing of this information
in the, all capital letters, World Trademark Register.
Did you see red rows?
All right, now, just so everybody's clear,
rows is a paralegal, so the second I said it,
she's like, scam, scam.
It is, but it looks so official.
The World Trademark Register.
This says, WTMRL catalog shows a sample of your trademark
and explanation of your goods and services,
registration date, and owner information as well.
If you're interested in listing your trademark
in our publication, please return this document
with your payment.
All right, now, and look, look, you've gotta see this.
It lists, it actually lists statutes on it.
I don't know if you can see that.
There's a statute listed.
USC is United States Code.
It actually says 39 USC section 3001 D2A.
And on the bottom, look, it says charges and fees,
registration fee, additional cost zero, total fees,
date due, look, date due, 12-15.
This is what they're sending to you.
So.
The majority of people who don't understand this will pay this bill.
They will send this in people also get those for their domain names too.
They do indeed. They get it for their domain names as well.
None of you are going to fall for this. Okay.
They send you these things. Look, I'm the guy who answers the 800, you know,
the one 800 number that calls you. I told my wife,
give me the phone cause I have fun with those people. They're like, can I,
can I speak to Peter? I was like, hello? They're like, can I speak to Peter?
One moment, please. I make them wait and come back. And I'm like, hello.
They're like, is Peter there? One moment, please. And like,
I just keep doing that until they finally, you know, get frustrated.
But the point is, please be careful.
This is not a real bill, even though it says on the bottom, it's a bill.
Now the way they get away with this, this is how they get away with this.
This is horrible people. This is Jacob's laughing.
This is absolutely horrible.
They have a small line here that says this is not a bill.
This is a solicitation.
You're not obligated to pay the amount stated above unless you accept this
offer. WTMR is not associated with any government agency.
Who the heck is going to read that little tiny print over there that says that
after you got this big, but this, this big bill,
most people are like, all right, Rose is going to read it. I'm going to read it.
My wife knew cause this is my trademark. Okay.
So please, please, please. If,
if you guys are in a situation and you get a bill,
I don't care if it says USPTO on it and you're not sure,
like all of you guys that are in the portal and everything, just ping me,
shoot me an email. Peter, I just got this. Is this legit?
Like, just let me know.
Cause I don't want you guys getting handcuffed this by this stuff.
This is horrible. I've had clients come to me and say, Hey,
I just paid that government fee. I said, what government fee?
Like when you filed your application, that was your only government fee.
What government fee are you talking about? Oh, you know, the $900. I said, no,
I don't know the $900. What are you talking about? And they won't refund it.
So please be careful. Okay. All right.
Now what I'm going to pull up is the scenario. Ray,
can you drop the link for the scenario?
Cause this is something I promised I was going to do with all of you.
I want to show you just how much you've learned so far.
And I'm going to share a little bit more with you guys.
Oh, Ray, did you drop the link for the protection portal?
I did. Yes. Okay. Just so people know.
Yeah. Maybe just drop it one more time. Oh, it's right there.
You highlighted it. Nevermind.
Just so you guys also know, um, we, Peter,
he loves just giving everything to you guys. It's going to support you.
So we're still building up the information about ALU being included the AI legal
update network. So we'll add more into it.
But if you guys have questions about it, just reach out to us.
I'll put our email in the chat for you too.
Yeah. I, I actually unfairly did that to Ray about an hour before we got to
start.
These guys really would benefit if we, uh, gave them ALU for free.
She's like, what? I said, yeah, let's just throw it in. She was like, Oh my gosh.
Okay.
See, it's easy for me. I can just say it,
but Ray's got to actually make it happen. So that's a whole other story.
So, all right, so here we go. I'm going to share with you the scenario,
the scenario.
There's a song from the eighties has this,
the words to scenario. I don't know what it is. I don't have to remember it.
Anyways. All right, here we go. We're going to do this together. Okay.
We're going to do this piece by piece and you're going to answer this.
It's not me. Okay. And then we're going to go to a little bit, uh,
a little bit of additional information for you guys. Um, Oh,
there was one other thing. So for those of you that were in VIP,
and I think I mentioned it yesterday.
I'm not sure if I mentioned it during the general training, but, um,
I'm adding a session tomorrow, Saturday at 12 o'clock for a half hour.
It's going to be on how to do a trademark search for logos.
It's very different. Um, a lot of people don't know how to search logos.
So tomorrow at 12 o'clock, Jacob.
So tomorrow at 12 o'clock for a half hour on my
Saturday,
I'm going to train you guys on how to do logo searching.
Cause I had two people who asked a question on logo searching.
And I thought, let me just do a session just on that.
Yes, Rae.
Just so you guys know, we did post in the Facebook group.
It's gonna be the same challenge link
that we've used all week.
If you wanna log in, use the challenge link
that you already have, or just go into the Facebook group
and you'll be able to access the meeting there.
Okay, all right, so let's go into the scenario.
What up, what up, what's up, what's up, this scenario.
It's a song, somebody help me, I can't, right?
Right, Rose?
It was like, so what, so what, so what's the scenario?
It's like, so what, so what, so what's the scenario?
It's a song.
Tribe Called Quest, Tribe Called Quest.
Thank you, thank you, Desio.
I knew it was a song.
I knew I wasn't making this up.
All right, scenario number one.
You own a small company called Burger Town.
What area of intellectual property law
is associated with that scenario, right there?
Just type it in the chat.
Here we go, yo, here we go, yo.
So what, so what, so what's the scenario?
Trademark, exactly, that's right, Joyce, that's right.
All right, number two.
The number one selling burger is called the Belt Buster.
What area of intellectual property law
is associated with that?
Come on, guys, don't be shy, you got this.
I got copyright, let's see.
Copyright, copyright, okay.
So it says your number one selling burger
is called the Belt Buster.
So the name of the product is Belt Buster,
that's trademark law.
Okay, so when it comes to names of products or services,
that is called trademark law.
Copyright would protect something like the ingredients.
If it was on a menu, it could protect the menu.
It can protect a website talking about it.
It can protect a picture of the burger.
All of those things are protectable under copyright law.
But under trademark law,
the name is protectable under trademark law.
So if you're thinking, okay, well, I'm gonna use that name,
then what do you do?
You go to the USPTO website, right?
You do a search, you look for Belt Buster.
And so what you do, I'm gonna stop it,
stop the share, and then share again.
I'm gonna go really fast to show you guys
how to do this very quickly.
USPTO.gov.
And again, this is a top level search,
not something you should be relying upon 100%.
This is just for you to do like a quick cancellation
of things that definitely are not available
to decrease your legal costs.
So you come over here, do searching,
go down to trademarks, and I come right over here,
word design, and I put in the word belt.
I put that as a non-punctuated word mark.
Let me move this thing out of my way.
There we go.
Put that as a non-punctuated word mark.
I choose and as the operator,
and then I put it on the next line, Buster.
And I do non-punctuated word mark, and I do the search.
What?
You know, I've done this training for a long time.
I never knew there was actually a trademark
called Belt Buster.
It's the first time I've actually done a search for it.
So apparently there is a trademark called Belt Buster,
but you notice right here it says abandoned.
So since it's abandoned,
that means you should be able to use it.
And you see it was filed as a 1B.
That means it was filed as an intent to use application,
not as an actual use.
So they filed it.
It was published for opposition,
but apparently it never got registered.
So if we want to learn more, you click on TSDR,
and now I can find out why it got abandoned.
Status, abandoned because no statement of use
or extension request timely filed
after notice of allowance was issued.
So now I know exactly why the case got abandoned.
Okay, pretty neat.
All public record.
So now I know Belt Buster is actually available
for me to use if I want.
Helpful?
That's the sequence.
This is real life.
I'm giving you like a real life situation.
You're representing.
company, you're doing this, this is exactly what you're going to be doing. So let me go back to
the next page on the scenario. Close that. I got a lot of windows open. Close that. And here we go.
Share screen. All right. Scenario number three.
Now it gets interesting. Now it gets more complicated. You have a website advertising
the company, providing a menu and describing ingredients, preparation techniques, and health
information regarding each item on the menu. Now it's going to take you too long to type all this,
so somebody unmute themselves and tell me what's protectable under what. And this is a friendly
environment, so it doesn't matter if you get it right or wrong. It really doesn't. Like the good
part is you're not being billed at $600 an hour. That's it. So just share and I'll guide you so
that you can figure out what you need to do. So anybody unmute yourself and let me know what's
protectable by what in this scenario. Don't be bashful. Copyright patent trade secret.
Okay. So let's see. So I'll take it one part of the sentence at a time. You have a website
advertising the company. What area law for that? Copyright. Exactly. Copyright. There's a menu.
How is that protectable? What area law?
Anybody? A menu. Trademark. No. It's a good guess. It was a really good guess. Nick's right.
It's copyright because the menu is all words, right? It's just laying out all the elements of
it. The image itself of the menu, the content of the menu that's protectable under copyright,
just like a website. And so then it says there's... Now is when it gets interesting,
which is what Rose was alluding to. It says there's ingredients, preparation techniques,
and health information. So here's what's interesting. A lot of people missed this
part. So that was really clever, Rose, which is there are preparation techniques.
A method is protectable under patent law. But now is where it gets really interesting in that
case law, since I'm a litigator, you guys know I'm a litigator. So under case law,
it is said that if a human being could perform all the steps, they won't allow you to get a
patent on it. The reason why is because you can't tell whether or not that process has been done
before. It usually gets rejected under 35 USC section 101, which is called non-patentable
subject matter. What that really means is that they're not going to allow a patent to be issued
on that item because they don't think that that subject matter is patentable.
So a way of washing clothes, if it doesn't include a machine, chances are it's going to
get rejected on the 35 USC 101. So a method of preparing food. If that process... MIT came out
with this really cool... If anybody's ever been to the campus, right off of the campus,
there's a store. And in that store, you can go in and you can enter in all the ingredients you
want in a bowl. Then this bowl comes out of this machine and each ingredient is dropped one by one,
boom, boom, boom. Then the thing is shaken up by the machine and then the toppings are added
and then the sauce is added and then it's given to you. It's a pretty cool thing to watch because
the whole system is... There's people serving you, but they're doing more interacting with you,
making sure you put in the order correctly. The machine is doing all the work and you're
seeing it live. It's pretty cool to watch. So if you have a process of preparing food
and that process includes using a machine doing that, that may be protectable under patent law.
But if the process includes grandma grabbing some rice, throwing it in a plate,
adding beans, adding chicken, adding guacamole or whatever and handing it to you,
not protectable. So the preparation technique likely has to include a machine.
So good job, Rose. That was really good to highlight patent law. All right. Now is where
it gets tough, but I believe in you guys. You guys got this. You can do it. You can do it.
All right. Here we go. Scenario number four. Oh, Jacob. Yes. Go ahead.
Copyright the name of the recipe
The name no, that would be trademark
trademark
Names names of things can be protectable under trademark law
So, okay. Let's say that we have
Let's say that we have a food item called the fiery fiery fewer fiery fury something like that
Right, it's it's spicy or whatever. So it's called fiery fury something like that that name can be protected for
food items and
So you can own that name in and of itself. All right, so now let's go on
It says you have a new process for keeping inventory of burgers
Prepared and for determining loss of profits by using a novel
pressure sensitive device
Located within a grill used for preparing burgers
What area law?
That's patented just alluded to it exactly patent
Absolutely. The process itself is
Protectable but then on top of that it has a novel pressure sensitive device
Novel means new so that means that pressure sensitive device could also be protectable under patent law
So you've got the method you've got the device
Those are both protectable then it says the burgers placed on an indented surface of the grill during cooking
The indented surface has a pressure sensitive switch that is thrown when the weight of the burgers detected
software within a computer is capable of comparing the number of detected burgers to actual sale of burgers to determine how many cooked burgers were
never sold as
An example burned dropped free replacements or claimed as a working benefit by a disgruntled employee
Not that I ever did that at a restaurant, but I probably did a lot but in any case
That process
The process that's that's performed is protectable on the patent law the software that's there that's protectable under
copyright law
All right, because the software itself is code code is protectable under copyright law
The process itself is protectable under patent law
So this is what you want to be able to do within your businesses. Somebody's saying to you. Hey
You have an educational you have an educational course
I've got some material. I want to add to your educational course. You need to think to yourself immediately. Okay, hold it
My educational course is protectable in a copyright law when that person adds their stuff to my course
They now have a legal right to to the new creation
Right, unless you get something in writing. Like if you get something in writing that says hey
I'd be happy to allow you to add a chapter to this course
However, your legal rights only pertain to that chapter alone not to the entire work like you need to specify
With individuals that you're going to partner with and work with who owns what this is something
I really want to talk to you guys about
Some of the most successful businesses become successful because of partnerships
You know people that just work really well together multiple people that are adding important information to each other and then boom this
Incredible this incredible like entity comes out and and lots of people are buying products or services and you're doing incredibly well
And then at the end of the day, this is what happens
ring ring
Actually, there's no more ring anymore. Now. It's like
What is ringers? There's no there are no ring rings anymore. No, it's like, you know, and here comes the beatboxing people
I know
So the the whatever it is the ringer goes off in your phone you answer it and
Hey, remember that guy that I said I was gonna do a project on. Yep
Yeah, he just sold my project over to such-and-such corporation. We need to stop him
And my answer is we can't
Because the material that they added they added to what you had and I told you that was a new work and they have a hundred
Interest in the exact same thing that
That you believe it that you believe you own since they have a hundred percent interest. You can't do anything about it
You know, you're in trouble
And so you just you just have to figure out when you're working with third parties
Who's going to own what and this is the same thing with employees with VA's. This is a big thing with virtual assistants
Please keep this in mind if you work with how many people here work with virtual systems just by a show of hands
All right, if you work with a virtual assistant
Or you have a contract
or you're just contracting to a third party
to work on a project.
You need to get in writing what they own and what you own.
You have to.
I mean, I can't tell you how many times I'm getting called
from people within networks that I know,
where I love the people,
but they're unfortunately working with a VA.
VA creates a new like ad for marketing,
for a new marketing campaign and lets them use it.
And then says, I want a licensing fee.
And they go back and they say, no,
I paid you $500 for that image.
And they say, that's nice, but you don't own the image.
I own the image.
Look, I had a call two days ago
from a party that's owed over $100,000, right?
They actually were the photographer for creating multiple,
like many, many, many, many different projects
for this major corporation.
They're owed over $100,000.
The major corporation hasn't paid them a penny,
intentionally, hasn't paid them a penny.
Why?
Because they know the other guys are small, small chains.
They're figured they're not going to lawyer up.
So they haven't been paying them.
So they called me up after they'd been trying to deal
with the other side and the other side
decided to get a lawyer involved.
They called me up and they said,
we don't know what we can do because we need that money.
Like, they have a new baby, like they need that money now.
And so it's not like it's this large corporation,
like they need those funds.
And so I said, well, actually,
you own the copyright on everything.
And they said, well, what does that mean?
I said, that means you can pull every single image
for every single project that you worked on
where you control access to all those images.
You can pull them all.
That means every single corporation
that they worked with on a project
will lose their content immediately.
I guarantee you, they'll call you then.
Just pull it, just go right in there and pull the plug.
Every single one of them.
When none of them are breathing, they're going to call you.
Every one of them, right?
And they said, well, can we do that?
I said, of course you can.
You're the copyright owner.
And they didn't pay you.
And then the other party on top of that is saying,
look, we don't have a written agreement.
So we have a verbal agreement.
In certain states,
here's something that'll help you guys out.
In certain states, there's a thing called
a statute of limitations for bringing an action.
What a statute of limitations is,
is that if there's an infringing action,
like, or let's say like a violation of a contract,
usually violation of contract,
you have three years to enforce your legal rights.
Look, this is not legal advice.
Like check out your own state
and find out from your local lawyers
what the statute of limitations is in your state.
But in California, I know it's three years for contracts.
It's two years for unwritten contracts.
You could have a verbal contract with somebody
where it's not written
and they need to stop doing what they,
what, you know,
or they need to start delivering
on what they said they were going to do
because they're bound under a contract,
even though you don't have a written contract.
Like this is all enforceable.
So anyways, I tell them, pull the plug.
I say, you want to see these guys wake up?
You own the copyrights, pull the plug.
And so I'm going to find out
whether or not they were brave enough
to actually do it today.
And if they did, I guarantee you,
they're going to get a phone call immediately.
All right, so now the last part of this.
Let's see.
I think you guys can still see the scenario, right?
Yeah, okay.
Here's the last part.
You also sell a new drink called Hunger Aid
that everyone loves and no one knows how to replicate.
What area of IP?
That's a patent, right?
And a trademark?
Trademark and trade secret.
Yep, that's right.
That's right.
So the name is Hunger Aid.
That's a trademark.
And it says everybody loves,
but no one knows how to replicate.
Now that could be either a patent or a trade secret.
Since nobody knows how to replicate it,
you can maintain it as a trade secret
because trade secret is basically something
that nobody can reverse engineer.
As an example, somebody tell me a beverage out there
that apparently, allegedly, nobody knows how to replicate
and they will sue you for creating something
that tastes exactly like theirs.
Yep, Coca-Cola.
That's the biggest one their legal counsel was king and spaulding in atlanta, georgia. I used to work in atlanta, georgia
and so, um
If you're a former employee and you go any place
And that place comes out with a a drink that's even slightly similar. They will sue the company
Right because because they believe that the coca-cola formula is a trade secret
Now, why is it valuable to maintain as a trade secret because it doesn't expire after 20 years
It can last forever
So if if coca-cola filed a patent
On their formula way back in the day when they were using real cocaine in their drinks
Right, that's not a myth. That's actually they were using real cocaine in their drinks
Um, then it would have expired within 20 years
Right, um actually back then it would have been 17 years from issuance. It turned into 20 years from filing
After 1995, so I think it was august 1995. You don't need to know all that stuff. It's just
I'm a wealth of stuff that'll put you to sleep sometimes. So yeah, so, um, whatever your scenario is we can figure it out for you
all right, so
the point being you could either go after a trade secret or
You can hold it as a patent either way it's up to you
I will tell you this though if you're trying to sell your company
uh
If you ever try to sell your company because I do ip valuations
and what ip valuations are is um
If a venture capitalist firm is going to potentially buy out another company or invest in another company
Like they're gonna say they're going to uh put 10 million dollars into a company
They'll hire me to look at their ip portfolio and see if I can destroy it
If I can destroy it it decreases the value of the company
Now that they know that it's a lower value of the company
They're going to want more of a premium on the money that they give to the company, right?
So if they're getting two percent or three percent or four percent off of the money that they're they're putting into the company
um with a potential buyout of making twenty percent thirty percent
They're going to ask for higher premiums if they know the ip is garbage
So they hire me to do all that investigation
If I do an evaluation and you say I go to nick and nick says, oh we have all trade secrets
Everything's a trade secret
And so I go. All right, cool nick. That is awesome
Uh, like tell me where's the software the software
That stores like, you know this trade secret stuff and nick says yeah, it's at home. Uh, and I go it's at home
Okay
Uh, is it on a server? That's like alone. That's isolators like no it's some of my kids laptop
They play overwatch and call of duty on it. I'm like, this is not this is not good. This is not good
So it needs to be nobody else can access it
Uh, and if you can maintain that nobody accessing it, you know only the people that need to can access it high security
Not on a local area network, then you can maintain it as a trade secret. Otherwise follow patent
So you can increase the value of the company. Okay, so that's the difference between the trade site secret and the patent so
With that congratulations guys, like we just went through a real life scenario
That was fake
I made up a real life scenario and you guys nailed every single area of ip
associated with so
That's pretty good
How many of you guys think like you've learned something over the last five days just by a show of hands
Well, that's good i'm glad i'm glad you guys feel like you've learned something I like that too. That's awesome. Yeah
so
Now it's up to you guys to apply this stuff, right?
and so
What i'd offer you guys is that now that you're going to be applying this in your own businesses
Um, just try not to get overwhelmed, you know, just keep notes keep good notes
If you have questions, obviously if you're in the protection portal and all you can just bring that stuff in
um, if you're doing trademark searches
Uh, i'll just show you one more thing on the trademark searches just to be careful for you
Uh, let me just close this up and that up
Just show you one more feature on the trademark searches that might help you out
I'm showing you guys this because a lot of people ask questions on the trademark searches. So I thought
Okay
Let me give you some additional feedback. All right searching
Here we go
Search our trademarks. Okay
All right
Um
One of the features here,
see if I could find it real fast for you.
All right, under goods and services.
If you're searching for a specific product,
just understand, unfortunately,
that you're kind of at the mercy
of the description that another party's used
of their own product, which is kind of unfortunate.
So like if you did a search for, let's say,
Nike as a trademark, non-punctuated word mark,
and then you put in, let's say,
and sneakers as goods and services.
Do you see what just happened?
Does anybody here believe that Nike doesn't own
the trademark Nike for sneakers?
Well, I just did a trademark search on the USPTO
for Nike and sneakers, and nothing came up.
Do you see how this is a big problem?
This is a perfect example of why you wanna be careful.
What you're trying to do is decrease the number of results,
but you may do a search and find out that,
you know what, this really is not a situation
where I can trust the results.
So what you wanna do is go back
and then maybe look up sneaker, like singular,
submit a query, nothing came up there.
Come up with another word, footwear, footwear, footwear,
evening there.
You guys remember that commercial?
I'm really showing my age here.
All right, now that I've typed in footwear,
look at all the results.
So it's only because I use the exact same word sequence
that was associated with this that it works.
So just please be careful.
If you start doing searches
and you don't see a result the first time,
keep digging in, like keep trying different words,
different, you know, and I don't even know if I do this,
let me see what happens if I do footwear.
Look at this, if I do foot space wear, I get one result,
one result only.
So I wonder if this is Eileen trying to,
hey, Ray, can you ping Eileen the,
Yeah.
Yeah, just ping her the Zoom link.
She's trying, apparently she wants to come in
to talk to people apparently before we close.
That's interesting, so, all right, well, that's cool.
She's one of our senior members, so if she wants to,
I'm gonna give her the audience.
All right, so-
Don't call her that in person.
Senior?
A senior member.
Yeah, she might get a little upset
if I put age associated with her.
Yeah, hopefully she doesn't see this replay.
All right, so that's the first part.
And then the last part, and then we'll let go,
is I wanted to open up this for you guys
to give you guys a special treat.
Special treat.
Ta-da, log in, log in.
Yes, please.
Okay, here we go.
I agree, yes, let's go.
Okay, new chat.
All right, I'm gonna show you guys something
on ChatGPT very fast.
For those who haven't seen ChatGPT,
this is ChatGPT, the basic version, okay?
In here, you can actually type in your messages.
So, if you say something like, hello, ChatGPT.
Hey there, what's on your mind today?
Okay, so now I can say something like,
please assume the position of a marketing consultant
hired to create an online course
for brand marketing.
Please provide, please provide 10.
examples of ads that are 10 words or less focused on the use of trademarks within a
business and learning more about trademarks. Okay, that's called a prompt. What I just
typed in is a prompt, right? I'm basically asking the database, you know, I'm asking
the AI bot to render results, okay? So, please assume the position of a marketing consultant
hired to create an online course for brand marketing. Please provide 10 examples of
ads that are 10 words or less focused on the use of trademarks within a business and learning
more about trademarks. Please, please use urgent language. Okay. Look at that. You see
the results I got immediately? Can you zoom in? Yes, I can. Plus, plus, plus. By the way,
what I'm doing right now is the stuff that we do in Alun. So, all of you that are joining
the Protection Portal, we do this live. So, people ask questions like, what if I do this
in MidJourney or that in ChatGPT? Like, I do this for you guys and then give you guys
ideas of how to run things in your business, other stuff like that. But also, like, what
programs are dangerous, which ones are good. We went into Logo AI's terms and conditions
because they're kind of a bait and switch company. So, I kind of let you know all this
stuff. So, all of you will be in that Alun thing when you join as well. So, here's examples.
Of course, I understand the urgency here. Attend concise ad examples highlighting trademarks
and business and the importance of learning about them. Protect your brand, master trademarks,
propel your business, exclamation point. Don't risk it, shield your brand with trademark
expertise. Trademarks are secrets. Ignorance is costly. Learn, secure, dominate. Ooh, I
like that. Learn, secure, dominate. That's cool. That's a good one, right? I actually
like that one.
I'm going to have to write that down.
Yeah, I just got to write that one down.
That's a good one.
That's a good one, right?
Yeah.
I like that. Learn, secure, dominate. Now, we got to use it. Ray, we got to write that
one down. Don't forget, please. Trademark secrets. Ignorance is costly. Wow. I like
that one. Yeah, I think we're literally going to use that in one of our ads. That's all
of you are going to know when you see the ads, they're going to go, I know where you
got that.
I was there when that happened.
He didn't come up with that. He used ChatDBG. All right, so then unleash power, elevate
your brand, embrace trademark mastery. Boring. Trademark smarts elevate brands. Boring. Don't
miss this vital knowledge. Oh, that'll make me want to join. Let's see. Secure your brand's
future. Snooze. Master trademarks exclude exclusive insights. No. Trademark mastery
fuels success. Enroll now for business dominance. No. Trademark mastery unlocks success. No.
Trademark know-how transforms business. No. All right, so let's say I want to go into
here. This is so much fun, by the way. Please take example number. I like the dominate one.
That was good. So example number three and provide 10 modifications, highlighting that
the program has a low cost. Let's say that. And please. Oh, that's good. I already said
do 10 modifications. So home, please. There's a reason why I'm doing this, by the way. I'll
explain to you in a second. But I do that. OK, absolutely. So here we go. Wow. I had
to think. Did you see it stuttered? It had to think there. Oh, I almost stumped it. Budget
friendly brand protection. Master trademarks save on cost. Trademark secrets on a budget.
Smart save big. A little better. Low cost trademark mastery, affordable shield, affordable
safeguard. Now, trademark brilliance, low cost, now cost effective trademark mastering. Now,
unlock savings trademark excellence wallet.
friendly don't miss this budget boon in the world that mean smart spending trademark mastery
economic brand all right i don't like any of those but i did like number three over here okay
so let's say i grab this okay so i say um please create a one paragraph
description oops description of the training um focusing
on uh let's see focusing on uh the ad that reads
trademark secrets ignorance is costly blah blah blah let's see that copy paste
please provide five examples
let's see if we can figure that one out so these are actual these are going to be things that i'm
going to use within the text of a website let's see okay here we go version one discover the
invaluable realm of trademark secrets in our comprehensive training program ignorance in this
domain can be a costly mistake for any business our course ensures you learn the strategies to
secure your brand preventing potential expensive pitfalls gain mastery and dominate your market
through trademark knowledge that's actually not bad that that's actually not darn bad right there
that that's pretty darn close to something i would use honestly uh the next one ignorance
regarding trademarks can wreak havoc on your business our training program unveils uh these
trademark secrets i don't like that in the world of trademarks ignorance is costly misstep our
training let's see our training program avails uh these secrets offering you tools to learn secure
blah blah blah all right so let's say this is the one i like let's let's just
make this complete we'll stop now i like this one
and i use this on my website okay so now i put i put an ad using this text
and it goes to my website or my funnel with this text can i own can i follow copyright for the
funnel that's the question this is where it gets tricky see this is where the issue is this is why
this ai issue is such a big deal because i cannot own this language under copyright law because it
was created through artificial intelligence that's the problem even if you switch it up and
add your own wording to it that's the next part i was going to walk you through okay so as of right
now if what you do is you copy this and you paste it on your funnel and you say hey look this is
great now what you do is you use um artificial intelligence to create a funnel you can actually
use ai and it'll spit out a funnel like that you just say use this image image image take this text
and use this ad boom done like within five seconds you've got a funnel done it's pretty amazing what
you can do you cannot file copyright on that funnel which means you can't own the text you
can't own the images if they were created in mid-journey you can't which means you can't
stop other people from using that same thing but what you can do is what rose just said which is
you'd have to modify this to add some kind of level of creativity over the original drafting
and when you do that now it becomes copyrightable now you can actually submit your website for
protection you can put your copyright notice on the bottom because legally you can own that does
that make sense that's what i was talking about before where the government says you cannot own
what's created through ai but i got some darn good examples here to work off of so what took
me five minutes to do with all of you i just came up with an ad campaign i came up with a description
and quite frankly i don't care that i can't own it on the copyright law i really don't
i just want to draw people in to receive training and then take care of them
so i don't care if like steve next door says that's awesome i'm gonna grab it
well bless you if you know how to
train people on it, then that's good.
More people will get trained, I don't care.
So just keep that in mind.
That's how you use AI.
And if this kind of stuff interests you,
like how to create campaigns, how to create letters,
how to create businesses, all those things,
what's safe, what's not,
that's what we cover in ALUN,
which is the AI Legal Update Network,
and you're getting that for free, okay?
That's what you guys get.
So now I think that makes it all clear.
And with that, my friends, we're done.
That was day number five.
You guys are awesome.
Congratulations on making it through
the Protect Your Idea Challenge.
It has been a ridiculous honor being with you guys.
I've had a lot of fun with you.
Thank you for the time.
Tomorrow we have the bonus.
So you are more than welcome to show up tomorrow.
I'm going to walk you guys through
how exactly do you search logos,
because that can be really tricky.
It can be really tricky.
There's two resources that are available.
I alluded to one of them to you quickly before,
but the other one I didn't talk about at all.
And there's a way to do it on the USPTO website.
It's just kind of tricky.
So I'll walk you through how to do that, all right?
And Natalie's dog's going to be there.
You can tell.
Dog is like, what?
We're going to learn.
He's like, I have to be there.
So I'll see you guys tomorrow.
If anybody has any questions, honestly,
about the Protection Portal
or the Foundations and IP thing, just stay on.
VIP will jump in at 8.30.
We're going to have like a 45-minute session over there.
And then we will close.
Okay, my friends.
I sent you a direct message.
You sent me a direct message?
I did.
I don't care what it says.
I'm just glad to get a message from you, Rose.
You're awesome.
You need to stop.
All right, keep on, we'll come to your house.
That's cool.
Hey, I'll make some rice and beans and chicken.
We'll be all good.
Oh yeah, we will be.
We'll be great.
I'll check out the DM.
Did you DM me here or on Facebook?
In the message here.
Oh, you did here?
Yeah, in the chat here.
Uh, are you talking about the testing?
No.
Oh, let me see.
Oh, here we go.
All right, stay on for a minute.
We'll touch base here.
And I signed up for your affiliate program too.
Oh yeah, that's right.
So for people that are not aware,
the way the affiliate program works
is I actually added a perk this time.
It's a full 10% that people receive.
So what that means is if you refer somebody
and they take the Protect Your Idea Challenge,
they take VIP and they also take
the Foundations and IP Package,
you make like $630 essentially
minus any transactional fees for one referral.
So we've got guys who have made $8,000 plus
like just as being members of the portal
because we do a 10% across the board.
But really what we ended up doing
is like somebody takes the challenge,
it's like 10 bucks VIPs, 20 bucks offer is 600.
So it adds up really fast.
So basically if you have a network,
this is the way I would think about this, Rose.
If you've got a network of people, right?
This is how people have taken advantage of this.
They will take the three pay,
then they'll market what's going on here to their network
and the payments that they're getting
for the affiliate commission stuff
basically pays for them to be part of the portal.
And the beautiful part about the portal truly,
which I love about it is that as the companies are growing,
they're continuously being taken care of.
Like all the questions, we're guiding them, helping them.
And for me, it's fun because I get to see them develop.
You know, like one of the people, Eileen,
did you text Eileen?
I did, she was, you were right.
She was wanting to come in and hang with us
and ask for a link.
I sent it over to her, but she hadn't seen it yet.
Oh, okay, cool.
All right, that's fine, that's fine.
So yeah, she reached out to me right before I went live
and she's like, hey, I wanna come over
and share with everybody.
And so I can see if she's available,
but she can speak, she can kind of speak
towards what you're talking about, Rose.
Okay.
Let me see if she's available.
She can jump right on real quick.
Yeah, just a heads up guys, we do have an internal process for approving those affiliate member accounts. So, if you buy our program and get that benefit of becoming an affiliate member.
I can send you additionally a little graphic that explains the breakdown of the prices.
Because we are still updating that because it's a new, um.
Better commission there.
All right, so I'm going to check and see if she can jump in right now.
She's become a number 1 author now.
Yeah, she's so amazing. Amazing.
So inspiring.
Everyone who read her book said they could not get back to their life. They couldn't put it down.
It was so good to hear, like, watch her feedback coming through on her Facebook from all of her book buyers.
She's not answering, which means she got pulled in with her sons. She has like a massive football son.
She's got a tribe, a herd of, yeah.
They're a beast. Her son is like massive, like intimidating massive.
He's like a powerhouse in all directions of life.
But anyways, you guys will have access to all these people. They're all in your network, you know, so you'll have access to these people.
So Rose, but in any case, the people that are within the protection portal or the foundation's IP, they have that 10%.
The other people are getting like 5% off of that.
So it's an extra perk that we give people that are investing in themselves.
One of the things you can do, obviously, is you can do like a three pay, put the first payment on a card and then get into the affiliate thing and bring other people in, start making commissions right off the bat.
So that's what a number of people have done, and that allows them to continue to get guidance, be part of network, market to each other within the network.
We're actually building another part within a network where people can say what their services are, what they do.
So everybody can kind of swap services. So it's pretty cool.
Does anybody else have a question on that?
Otherwise, I am going to eat something for five minutes and then jump in a VIP.
I don't think anybody else has a question. So, all right, cool.
Well, God permitting, I'll see you guys in there and otherwise have an incredible weekend.
It's been an honor seeing you guys and I'll see you guys in VIP over in that room.
Okay.
All right. Take care. I'll leave you with them, Ray. I'm going to jump off.