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All right, well, welcome everybody to the November 2023 issue segment version of the

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ALUN AI Legal Update Network.

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So this is what's going on.

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There's a lot of stuff that's going on, quite frankly.

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There's the new programs that have been introduced to address issues with scraping.

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There's different universities, different corporations that have instituted new software

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programs because they're really concerned that people that are applying for jobs, people

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that are filling out essays for SATs or for different exams at different colleges, they're

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really concerned that everything's being done using AI.

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So they've implemented different programs to catch onto this.

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We as owners of companies may also have an interest in knowing whether or not our employees

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are implementing AI without us knowing this, because this could be a major issue when you

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have something like ChatGPT or BARD or another program creating text for you that's going

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out to clients, that's representing the company, that's going to be used in either a business

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environment or a legal environment, and it's, in fact, including copyrighted material, trademark

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material, and you just don't know.

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How many people are actually going to stop and read the work that is being created by

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all the members of their marketing team and their employees before it goes out the door?

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Nobody, unless you have a really small company.

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It's not common to do that.

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And on top of that, if you're hiring a marketing company and the marketing company is doing

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a campaign for you, you may want to know from the copy that they're providing or if you

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hire somebody to write a book for you and you're giving them notes for the book, you

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may want to know that that thing was created by AI, because if that thing was created by

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AI, you cannot own what?

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The copyright.

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If you can't own the copyright, that means you can't stop other people from using it.

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And so as an example, let's say you have some video from a course that you created.

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You can take the video from the course you created, upload that into an AI program and

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get it not only transcribed, but then summarized.

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Take that.

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You can actually upload the transcription itself and ask ChatTPT to create a book for

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you, or you can take the summary and upload that into a program like ChatTPT and ask it

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to create ebooks for you.

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Out of the following summary, please create five, notice the number, five ebooks.

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There are three pages or less that can be provided for marketing purposes for my business.

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And then boom, done.

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But now that's an incredible tool, something that I love to use myself, right?

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I mean, I use these tools in my own business, but if I ever want to own the copyright to

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it or make it so other people can't copy it, I got to make sure I own that myself.

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That means I can't use AI to create it.

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Well, there's a bunch of companies that have made a really big stink as of late, including

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universities, including corporations that are saying they're seeing more examples of

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college essays, of grad school essays, of PhD theses, theses, theses, theses.

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I don't know how you say it.

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Thesai, okay?

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So plural thesis.

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They are seeing that and they're perplexed because as they're looking at it, they're

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believing that it's actually created using artificial intelligence and they're trying

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to figure out what are they supposed to do.

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Now, somebody's going for a PhD and they're writing a thesis.

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You would hope that they're writing a lot of it themselves, right?

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Now, could they do slight tweaking using ChatGPT or using another program like that?

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Yeah, sure.

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If it's like slight tweaking, but you don't want them drafting the majority of it.

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That's a big problem.

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So there's a few different programs that are out there.

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I'm just going to tell you guys about these.

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So you have your own reference for them and I will put it in the chat here.

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Here's one example.

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Okay, here's one.

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It's called Turnitin.

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All right, this is a plagiarism checker.

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It's used by a lot of schools and universities.

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companies are starting to use this.

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What it does is it compares a piece of text

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to a database of other texts to identify instances

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of copying and paraphrasing.

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Now, here's a note that somebody wrote on this

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because they used it.

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It says, while it may not be able to definitively determine

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whether a piece of text was generated by a language model,

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it could potentially identify certain characteristics

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of language model generated text

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that could indicate its artificial origin.

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All right, what does that mean?

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What I mean by that is there's certain things

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that AI created texts,

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certain patterns that it uses.

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If you sit down and you take some time,

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you'll actually see a pattern, okay?

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Now, computers can find patterns faster than human beings.

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I was able to see some of the patterns,

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but computers could see it, as you can imagine,

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exponentially faster.

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So you're looking for like a repetitiveness

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in the pattern of the text.

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That's one thing that a lot of language models do.

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They use like the same kind of structure, you know?

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You'll see it.

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It's like the sentence structure is exactly the same

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in almost every single sentence.

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There's a pattern to it.

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There's also tends to be a lack of originality.

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It's very fact-specific, very fact...

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There's a serious lack of emotion.

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it's like using explicatives

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and like overly powering language.

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When human beings write,

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they guide you in an emotional journey.

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When ChadGBT or other AI language models are utilized,

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generative AI models are utilized,

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it's very fact-specific and then it'll have like a spike.

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Like when it's trying to get you emotionally involved,

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it'll say something like, and Tom was very excited.

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You know, it's like, it's just, it's going from, you know,

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Tom was born in Greenland.

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Tom, over the years, Tom's wanted to learn,

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let's say, learn more about deer.

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Tom woke up early on Tuesday morning.

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He saw a deer, exclamation point.

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Like it's just, it doesn't, that's not how we talk.

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Like, so you can see it now,

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but just understand that that's gonna change.

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Like it's gonna get better and better.

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It's gonna get closer and closer to humans,

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but for now you can track it.

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There's also plagiarism checkers can be utilized.

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Like one of the ones I just gave you,

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Turnitin is a good plagiarism checker.

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And then I'd say those that are major ones.

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The other ones I'm not gonna get into

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because they're more like mathematical stuff.

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I don't think people wanna know a lot about.

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If you wanna learn algorithmic mathematical stuff,

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because I'm an electrical engineer as well,

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I'm happy to share that with you,

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but I don't think you guys wanna

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waste some time in here on that.

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All right, so another program that's out there,

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so just take like another probably five minutes

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and then I'll jump into some other stuff,

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but this is becoming so important

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that you're seeing companies that are trying

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to figure this out, universities and others.

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So another one is called PlagueScan.

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It's another plagiarism checker

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that compares a piece of text to a database

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of other texts to identify instances of copying,

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all right, or paraphrasing.

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And then finally, CopyLeaks is another one.

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Let's see, that's another plagiarism checker

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that's out there.

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There we go.

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And that one uses advanced machine learning algorithms

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to scan a piece of text and compare it

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to a database of other texts to identify instances

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of copy and paraphrasing.

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technologically savvy.

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but CopyLeaks seems to be one of the better ones out there.

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So I would check that one out

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if you're trying to figure out

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what to use within your business.

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So I actually saw a grading of these different programs

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to see the effectiveness

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because people are starting to implement this stuff.

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And so that's why I would check out CopyLeaks.

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So that's part one.

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I just want to give you guys a little overview

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of what people are doing.

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The other thing is what we talked about already

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is people are trying to make sure

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that their information isn't scraped.

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right on the internet.

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So I let you know about different programs

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you can use for that.

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So you know about glazing.

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We talked about some other programs as well.

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So that should help you at least there.

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Now, how many people here are doing marketing

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of their business, like to try to get more clients

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online through social media?

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Anybody?

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All right, so nobody here is doing that.

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I know there's some people that are watching,

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gonna watch the replay.

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When did we talk about glazing?

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We've talked about it last meeting.

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We talked about it during Law for AI.

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We talked about it a few times.

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So Ray's asking a question.

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Did you need me to drop glazing link here?

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Yeah, yeah, drop the link.

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Yeah, we'll drop the link for you as well, Donna.

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So you can see that.

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All right, so here's a ploy that's being used

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by some of the top influencers in the world right now.

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This is kind of a big, big issue.

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Originality AI, yeah, that's a good one.

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Yeah, that's actually a good one.

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All right, so this is really interesting.

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Now, I'm gonna tell you what you do,

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and then you tell me if it's legally wrong,

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because all of you have been trained

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at least on copyrights and trademarks.

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So you guys, just so we're clear,

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you guys are ahead of like 90% of the public, okay?

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Because a lot of them are just trying to figure out

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if there's any legal issues at all with AI.

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So here's what you do.

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You go onto something like Instagram.

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You do a search for influencers.

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You find the people that are most effective as influencers.

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When you do that, you then can use artificial intelligence

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to take their image, grab their image,

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throw it into artificial intelligence software,

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and then modify the image to find someone

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who looks similar but not exactly the same.

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Then what's being done is they go into that influencer site,

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they grab the videos, the Instagram videos,

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the YouTube videos, the TikTok videos,

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and they take the AI-created individual,

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and they supplement that individual into the video.

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And then they run it with a different voice.

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I mean, when you think about it,

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if we just forgot about the law for a second,

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that's brilliant.

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I mean, if you just, if you kind of think about it,

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you know, it's like, look, my number one ad.

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Let me see if I can pull it.

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Do we have that video with my daughter?

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See if you can find it.

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Somewhere deep in the archives.

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Yeah, deep, deep, deep undercover.

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There's a video, I'll show you guys really fast.

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I know I have it in my account,

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so I'll just open it up really fast as I'm talking.

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But when you think about it,

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that's actually a pretty incredibly brilliant idea,

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but there's a problem with doing that.

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And so somebody raise your virtual hand,

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or, you know, unmute and tell me what is the problem

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with what I said, and what are the different legal issues?

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If you can think about this,

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because just so we're clear, this is happening now.

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People are doing this now.

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Okay, does anybody want to guess at that?

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I know Patty does.

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You can unmute and talk if you want.

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Here you go.

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Okay, so first of all, copyright infringement.

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Absolutely.

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Stealing.

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Yeah, and the copyright infringement is at multiple levels.

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So the original image that's being grabbed

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is being grabbed from somebody's video

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or from their pic on Instagram,

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which in and of itself is copyright infringement.

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The modification, they're in that intimate journey

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and asking it to modify that

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or give you like, you know, new versions of that,

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highlighting certain features, that's copyright infringement.

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Now taking that and throwing it into a video,

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that's now taking their video and using their video,

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which is copyright infringement again.

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The mere fact that somebody grabs somebody else's content

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and puts it into an AI bot,

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in and of itself is copyright infringement.

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So whether or not they use it publicly,

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the second they copied it, that's copyright infringement.

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So there are major, big named influencers

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that are telling millions of people to do this.

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Like now.

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because what they did was they found that

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the videos that were created

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and the look of that individual

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resulted in higher interest of the public,

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higher number of followers.

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And so what you do is you now create

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like four or five accounts

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of replicas of other people's work

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with a different person who looks slightly similar

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with the same video content, different voice.

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And you run those four or five different accounts.

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You increase the followers in there,

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and then you make an offer in that account

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to the millions of followers

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where it's sponsored by that person.

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Because you can use artificial intelligence now

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to take a person and have that person speak

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even though they never spoke.

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So now you're taking the slightly modified

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replica of a real person

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in the same scenario of what they used before

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in five different accounts.

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And now you get that person to say,

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you know what, over the years I've been drinking Coca-Cola,

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but what I found is that Rudy's Root Beer

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is the best thing out there.

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You guys really need to check this out.

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If you click this link over here,

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you get it for half off this week.

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Boom, sales spike.

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All of that copyright infringement,

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all of it's fraudulent,

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but people aren't aware of this.

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So this is happening right now.

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So just be careful as you're looking at,

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as you're looking at products that are being sold online,

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you know, sponsorships that are being provided online.

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There are a good number of them now,

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and it's growing, that actually are not real.

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So you want to do a little bit of research.

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And you can do the research by using Google,

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you know, or you can do like,

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what I would do is use the Wayback Machine.

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Does anybody remember the Wayback Machine?

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I know Rudy does.

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Yeah, I still use it.

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Okay, yeah.

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So the Wayback Machine, I'll show you,

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I just saw Tanja wasn't too familiar with it,

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so I'll show you just real fast what it is.

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What it is.

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Let me show you what it is.

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While you're looking for that,

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that happened to a pastor friend of mine

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that they copied this person's likeness,

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with somebody that looked just like this person.

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And then they emailed all,

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and I'm not sure how they did that,

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but they emailed all the people connected

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to a live web event for that person.

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they asked everybody to contribute to this orphanage.

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Oh my gosh.

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And so they were praying off people's generosity

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and Christian charity.

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When I went out and looked at the orphanage,

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I was like, there's misspellings on this website.

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There's no way.

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Yes, and that's why what I'm suggesting to people,

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what you just said, Donna, nails it on the head,

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is that's why what I'm suggesting to people to do

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is to use a Wayback Machine to see

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when was that website created?

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Is it a legitimate company?

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Because these people are becoming so clever

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that they're buying domain names

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and then putting up websites that are very current.

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And so if you use a Wayback Machine,

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you can determine whether or not

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that website was just recently created.

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And if it was, that will make you more concerned

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and more cautious when it comes to using these individuals.

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So for some reason,

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Ray, can you just open the Wayback Machine on your computer?

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Yeah, I'm grabbing a link right now.

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Hey, Peter, could you also do like a false light?

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Could you also do like a false light charge?

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I guess that would be a charge against them.

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You know, a way to pull in something

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that has a little bit more teeth

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than going after them civilly.

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Could you do something like that?

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Do you think it would be a false light

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for the states that have that law?

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Yeah, you're talking about invasion of privacy.

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Yeah, so for those who aren't familiar with this,

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this is like a tortious action.

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So there are civil lawsuits,

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like there's a body of law called torts, right?

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And so like tortious interference with business practice

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is the cause of action that-

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one party uses against another, essentially saying that a certain action was performed

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on one party's behalf, which was fraudulent, which was misleading and resulted in a detriment

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to the second party. So as an example, if you put a patent number on your product,

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and you said like, US patent number 6459123, and you never had a patent, you can run into

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an unfair business practice charge or tortious interference in business practice thing,

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that's all called a tort. So the false light areas, basically, it's a kind of tort that's

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associated with invasion of privacy, where you're essentially making false statements about somebody,

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um, where that person, like, typically, the person would be would, it would be objectionable,

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or what could harm them. And so false light really is state, like, you'll see certain states do it,

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certain states don't. So can you do that? Um, yeah, you could. But the way that I usually see

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this false light information is like, when you're taking put, you're making public information out

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of private facts, like you're taking, you're you're taking somebody's personal information,

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and you're making it public. Right? So that wouldn't apply. So I was just thinking,

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because civil suits, like we ran up against this in insurance law down in Florida,

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where contractors were stealing lots of money from people who needed to get rebuilt,

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you know, after a hurricane. And so what happened was the prosecutors weren't going after them,

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if they could go after them, if they could have the means to after them civilly. So instead of

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going after them, criminally, they're just like, Yeah, we're not gonna, you're not gonna mess with

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this. So it just seems like, with the deep fakes, it just seems like there's got to be more teeth to

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it. Right? Yeah, there, there's, there's copyright infringement allegations that can be made, because

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the deep fakes have to come from an origination. So the original image or original soundbite,

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there has to be like an original image, original video, it had to come from somewhere. So, so

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they couldn't just like, miraculously come up with a picture of Shaq, they had to

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gain access to a picture of Shaq and from there, derive content. So if that original picture is

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protected in the copyright law, then everything that's derived from that essentially is a fruit

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from the vine. And so, you know, you could essentially go after them for the rest of the

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stuff based on the original infringement. But there's public images of Shaq, right? Like,

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and so you can take a public image of Shaq and throw it onto a character, and, you know, modify

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it slowly, and nobody can really do a lot. Now, now, if it, if it places that person in a,

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if it misrepresents that individual, like, now you're talking about, now you're talking about

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something that maybe, yeah, right. So now, now's where you got to get really clever,

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you got to come up with theories that people aren't really sure about where, you know, you're,

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you're, you're taking an actual individual, let's say, like, Shaq, all of a sudden,

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is seen like, with a prostitute, right? Like, that would make him livid, right? It can have

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a detriment effect on his, on his, on his marriage, you know, on, on who's going to sponsor

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him, you know, like, if they did that for somebody like, like, let's say, I can't say Tiger Woods,

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because he actually did some bad stuff. But um, let's say you took some, like, somebody was

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sponsored by Nike, and Nike dropped the sponsorship, then by all means that that placing them in a

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false light had a detrimental effect on them directly. And that could potentially be actionable.

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But, but if I'm just taking like, Patty's image, and I want Patty to be like, I don't want my face

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to be training people on my eCourse. So I take a picture of Patty that's public, and I do a slight

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modification on mid journey, and it's it's not a copyrighted image. And people are like, I want to

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learn from Patty, like way more than I want to learn from Peter's face. And so now she like this

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slightly mocked up images and all my eCourses, like, you know, how do you measure the damage on

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that? That's that gets difficult to determine. And that's where

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we are like this isn't this isn't fictitious. This is like

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happening now. People are taking there's an entire business

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focused on obtaining sponsorships, like a very large

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business. I'm just checking off my phone because apparently all

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of a sudden everybody wants to call me at the exact same time.

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Alright, so if you want to get Shaquille O'Neal to sponsor your

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basketball team, right, you got to pay money. Like, you know, if

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if you want to get an endorsement from Grant Cardone,

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or like Tony Robbins, you got to pay money. But what if you could

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just create a video where it shows Grant Cardone coming right

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next to you and going, Great job, Pete, this is really going

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to do a lot for for entrepreneurs. That's it. 10

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second clip. It's not really him. I got the image. I got the

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image from a public file. What's his cause of action?

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Like, the cause of action that he might have might be associated

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maybe some kind of detrimental association that can hurt his

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relationship with others. But besides that, this is this is

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why Donna right now this this is an area where there's a lot of

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litigation people are trying to figure out the law because

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they're not really sure. It's true. It's so we're going to

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find out within months exactly how the courts are going to

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interpret all this because this is such a hot topic. I mean,

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you've got actors who are on strike, you've got football

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players that are that realize that he can create an entire

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virtual league and never need a football player again. You know,

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so now you can have you know how they have. And most corporations

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they have these illegal pools that are going on for sports,

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right? Well, now it can all be virtual, like artificial

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intelligence can run the entire thing, every scenario. And I

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mean, it's, it's really happening now. So there's a lot

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of money that's being lost in this area. And a lot of money to

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be made. So can false light be used? It is what I would say is

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you got to look at the specific state that you're in. And you

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got to see what what are how the courts have interpreted

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false light in your state. Because that's going to measure

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whether it's a good cause of action or not. It's a clever

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idea. It's definitely a clever idea. And me personally, being a

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litigator, I would use it.

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What about the name, image and likeness, though? What about the

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I mean, because they've been using that for professional

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athletes for a long time for

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Yeah, so people's famous people's names are often

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protected. So, like Tiger Woods, Grant Cardone, Tony Robbins,

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their names are all protected. You can't use their names.

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Do you have to file a trademark for that?

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In order for it to be protected, you can file federal

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registration for that. But remember, there's certain legal

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rights under common law, too. So right, you have one filed yet or

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not, you still have certain legal rights under common law.

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Okay. But in general, you can file a trademark application for

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your name if you're famous. Some people believe they're famous

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when they're actually infamous. But that's a whole other story.

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Gotcha.

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Let me I'm gonna show you guys something on my computer.

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But you still need me to pull up Wayback Machine here.

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No, no, no, no. I think I think people know how to use the

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Wayback Machine. But in general, what I would do. There we go.

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Everything open. Good. Okay. Okay, so let's see if I can show

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you guys something here. Have a little fun. I'm gonna open up

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chat GPT. I want to show you guys something. And that's a

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little concerning. All right, let me share my screen. I'm

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going to show you what is what's okay to do and then what's not

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okay to do. Okay, so if I go into like a new chat, like I use

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this every once in a while, but let's say I go into a new chat.

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And I say something like, let's say I want to come up with a new

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book in the book one, like a five page book, right? So I can

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say something like, I always start out with Hello, chat GPT.

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Alright, hey there, how's it going? Alright, so now, what

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I'll do is I'll say

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Please assume the role of an accomplished author creating a new book.

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The new book is only five pages long.

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Please have the, please use, actually no, I'm going to show you the right way to do

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it and then I'll show you where you can get into trouble.

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Please draft a five page book using the following characters and scenario.

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Character number one is named Pepe, Pepe lives in, let's say, Ecuador and, oh, I spelt

492
00:31:18.300 --> 00:31:22.180
that wrong, Ecuador is wrong.

493
00:31:22.180 --> 00:31:29.940
Not equator, Ecuador, but let's make it simple, Argentina, Argentina, there you go, it's simple,

494
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and gets lost in the woods.

495
00:31:36.660 --> 00:31:57.660
He realizes over time that he has the ability to understand animals and can hear them speaking.

496
00:31:57.660 --> 00:32:24.980
One day while seeking food, Pepe hears, Pepe overhears a deer telling another deer that

497
00:32:24.980 --> 00:32:43.660
she found a bag filled with gold and she wants to know what to do with the bag.

498
00:32:43.660 --> 00:33:11.460
The story should explain, the story should follow Pepe's search for the bag and his attempt

499
00:33:11.460 --> 00:33:18.620
to get out of the woods.

500
00:33:18.620 --> 00:33:38.780
The second character is named Felix, and I'm going to keep this really simple, and Felix

501
00:33:38.780 --> 00:34:08.739
is a bad person, Pepe attempts to avoid Felix while finding an exit from the woods and capturing

502
00:34:09.260 --> 00:34:10.260
the gold.

503
00:34:10.260 --> 00:34:18.540
Let's just say that's what we did, something really simple, right, so control copy, please

504
00:34:18.540 --> 00:34:23.340
draft a five page, blah, blah, blah, all right, let's just see what happens when you do that.

505
00:34:23.340 --> 00:34:36.020
Look at that, look at this, title, page one, page two, page three, page four, page five,

506
00:34:36.620 --> 00:34:37.620
look at that.

507
00:34:40.300 --> 00:34:41.300
You see that?

508
00:34:42.380 --> 00:34:51.739
It took me two minutes to come up with a random scenario, and here's the story, all drafted.

509
00:34:51.739 --> 00:34:57.580
It's called Whispers of the Woods, there's a title, right, and then in the vast expanse

510
00:34:57.580 --> 00:35:00.060
of Artina's lost wilderness, Pepe found himself in God's hands.

511
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:01.600
often the embrace of the woods.

512
00:35:01.600 --> 00:35:05.080
The sun gentle rays filtered through the canopy above

513
00:35:05.080 --> 00:35:06.840
as he wandered, his heart pounding

514
00:35:06.840 --> 00:35:08.360
with both wonder and trepidation.

515
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:11.000
This was his escape from routine,

516
00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:13.420
his chance to explore the unknown.

517
00:35:13.420 --> 00:35:15.360
As he ventured, blah, blah, blah, he couldn't,

518
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:16.200
so here he goes.

519
00:35:16.200 --> 00:35:18.640
Whisp, as he ventured deeper,

520
00:35:18.640 --> 00:35:21.180
nature seemed to whisper secrets

521
00:35:21.180 --> 00:35:24.080
that only he could understand.

522
00:35:24.080 --> 00:35:26.900
All right, so now there's the,

523
00:35:27.860 --> 00:35:29.560
like everything that I'm trying to cover,

524
00:35:29.560 --> 00:35:30.760
like it's there.

525
00:35:32.620 --> 00:35:35.420
Like it's now, look, day by day,

526
00:35:35.420 --> 00:35:36.980
he traversed the untamed terrain,

527
00:35:36.980 --> 00:35:38.500
conversing with chattering birds,

528
00:35:38.500 --> 00:35:42.300
playful squirrels, and wise old trees.

529
00:35:42.300 --> 00:35:44.660
Okay, but one conversation changed everything.

530
00:35:44.660 --> 00:35:46.460
Peppery's seeking substance overheard a deer

531
00:35:46.460 --> 00:35:48.580
sharing a remarkable find with her kin,

532
00:35:48.580 --> 00:35:51.660
an enigmatic bag filled with glistening gold.

533
00:35:51.660 --> 00:35:54.680
All right, so look, so why am I doing this?

534
00:35:54.680 --> 00:35:55.520
This is a story.

535
00:35:55.520 --> 00:35:58.660
Now I can just take this whole thing right here

536
00:35:58.680 --> 00:36:00.340
and I could sell it.

537
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:03.360
Like right now I could sell it.

538
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:05.400
Now, is there anything wrong with what I did?

539
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:06.240
No.

540
00:36:07.240 --> 00:36:08.440
Everything I just did,

541
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:11.320
there's literally nothing wrong with what I just did.

542
00:36:11.320 --> 00:36:14.520
Do I know that any of this content here

543
00:36:14.520 --> 00:36:16.640
did not come from somebody else's book?

544
00:36:17.600 --> 00:36:20.860
Chances are probably not because those are my characters.

545
00:36:20.860 --> 00:36:22.680
It's doing what I'm saying.

546
00:36:23.640 --> 00:36:28.640
So chances are probably pretty good that it's not.

547
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:30.000
That's not the case.

548
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:34.200
Now, so I can copy this, turn it into a book,

549
00:36:34.200 --> 00:36:38.960
sell it on eBay or whatever, Amazon, done.

550
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:42.080
I can't own the copyright, okay?

551
00:36:42.080 --> 00:36:44.000
So that means somebody else can come and copy it

552
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:46.240
because I didn't create it.

553
00:36:46.240 --> 00:36:50.760
I drafted this paragraph here to give a description

554
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:55.760
and it elaborated upon all of that.

555
00:36:55.940 --> 00:36:59.340
I'm trying to speak one of your Hawaiian terms over here.

556
00:36:59.340 --> 00:37:00.520
Pono pono, right?

557
00:37:00.520 --> 00:37:01.360
Oh, pono pono.

558
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:02.200
I was just gonna say that,

559
00:37:02.200 --> 00:37:03.260
it sounds like oh, pono pono.

560
00:37:03.260 --> 00:37:04.100
Yeah, oh, pono pono.

561
00:37:04.100 --> 00:37:05.700
It's a healing term in Hawaiian.

562
00:37:05.700 --> 00:37:07.260
I know, I know.

563
00:37:07.260 --> 00:37:09.780
I'm sorry, forgive me.

564
00:37:09.780 --> 00:37:10.860
I love you.

565
00:37:10.860 --> 00:37:12.660
Yeah, I know the whole thing, yeah.

566
00:37:13.940 --> 00:37:16.340
So it's actually pretty cool, I like it.

567
00:37:16.340 --> 00:37:21.260
So I can sell it, but I can't own the copyright.

568
00:37:21.260 --> 00:37:22.380
Okay, great.

569
00:37:22.380 --> 00:37:24.740
When does it become a problem?

570
00:37:25.640 --> 00:37:27.000
The time that it becomes a problem

571
00:37:27.000 --> 00:37:28.780
is when I do something like this

572
00:37:28.780 --> 00:37:30.980
and I'm gonna show you something different.

573
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:37.920
If I copy this and I take a book that already exists,

574
00:37:38.560 --> 00:37:40.360
so let's say I paste it over here.

575
00:37:41.900 --> 00:37:46.900
Please assume the role of, let's say Stephen King, right?

576
00:37:47.900 --> 00:37:52.900
Creating a sequel to the book, I don't know, Lestand.

577
00:37:59.240 --> 00:38:01.240
Didn't he create the book Lestand?

578
00:38:01.240 --> 00:38:03.240
Lestand, I think that's his book.

579
00:38:03.240 --> 00:38:08.240
So the book, Lestand, okay.

580
00:38:10.240 --> 00:38:15.240
So I'm gonna copy this and I'm gonna paste it over here.

581
00:38:17.900 --> 00:38:20.200
Oh, let's make it even worse.

582
00:38:20.200 --> 00:38:22.640
This is why I don't read his books, The Shining.

583
00:38:22.640 --> 00:38:24.560
Here we go, all right.

584
00:38:24.560 --> 00:38:25.400
Yeah, I know.

585
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:26.220
I don't like that one.

586
00:38:26.220 --> 00:38:29.440
All right, let's just make it The Stand.

587
00:38:29.440 --> 00:38:31.160
Let's keep it that way, okay.

588
00:38:31.160 --> 00:38:32.160
All right, so now,

589
00:38:37.940 --> 00:38:42.940
instead of a sequel, I could say creating a next chapter

590
00:38:43.940 --> 00:38:48.940
to the book, The Stand, there you go.

591
00:38:54.540 --> 00:38:56.220
The second you do that,

592
00:38:56.220 --> 00:38:58.340
this is where you run into problems.

593
00:38:58.340 --> 00:39:03.060
Because what ChatGPT does is it looks in its scrape data,

594
00:39:03.060 --> 00:39:07.220
it looks for if it has a copy of The Stand.

595
00:39:07.220 --> 00:39:10.780
Then what it does is it uses the content from The Stand

596
00:39:10.780 --> 00:39:15.780
and it now populates that into your newly created book, okay.

597
00:39:18.020 --> 00:39:20.380
This is where it gets,

598
00:39:20.380 --> 00:39:23.260
you run into copyright infringement issues.

599
00:39:23.260 --> 00:39:26.020
Because now it's grabbing content from another.

600
00:39:26.020 --> 00:39:28.260
I wanna make sure you understand the difference.

601
00:39:28.260 --> 00:39:30.700
You can do what I showed you in the beginning,

602
00:39:30.700 --> 00:39:33.140
have a lot of fun with it, create books,

603
00:39:33.140 --> 00:39:35.060
sell them, have no issues.

604
00:39:35.060 --> 00:39:36.420
If you don't care about the copyright,

605
00:39:36.420 --> 00:39:37.860
then it's not a big deal.

606
00:39:37.860 --> 00:39:40.260
If you're working with a publisher, it's a very big deal

607
00:39:40.620 --> 00:39:42.580
because publishers always ask you,

608
00:39:42.580 --> 00:39:44.900
did you create the work yourself?

609
00:39:44.900 --> 00:39:46.700
And so you can't say you created the work yourself

610
00:39:46.700 --> 00:39:47.980
if you didn't.

611
00:39:47.980 --> 00:39:49.700
So if you're working with a publisher,

612
00:39:49.700 --> 00:39:50.860
you're gonna have to reveal to them

613
00:39:50.860 --> 00:39:52.300
that you use artificial intelligence

614
00:39:52.300 --> 00:39:55.940
and then they're gonna wonder why they're actually paying you.

615
00:39:55.940 --> 00:39:58.700
They could have run it themselves, right?

616
00:39:58.700 --> 00:40:00.180
But in any case.

617
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.160
Going down over here, I just want to show you what happens.

618
00:40:04.160 --> 00:40:18.720
I'm going to take this here, and I'm going to take a book

619
00:40:18.720 --> 00:40:22.480
that I should know way better, but I do know.

620
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:24.760
So let's see.

621
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:29.880
So in the Bible, Romans ends with chapter 16.

622
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:43.400
So I can say over here, please assume the role, please create

623
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:56.920
a chapter 17 in Romans within the Bible.

624
00:40:56.920 --> 00:41:04.800
When you do that, what it does is it's, say I just do this,

625
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:10.280
please create a chapter 17, I'll just make it more simple,

626
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:16.440
a Romans chapter 17 in the Bible.

627
00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:32.760
So now what it's doing is it's taking what's already there,

628
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:36.280
and it's creating a next chapter.

629
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:43.560
When you do that, it's grabbing content from what's already there.

630
00:41:43.560 --> 00:41:52.960
That's, again, an example of where you can run into an issue.

631
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:57.160
So I just want to demonstrate that for you, because as of right now,

632
00:41:57.160 --> 00:42:00.520
a lot of people are creating books.

633
00:42:00.520 --> 00:42:02.880
There's a lot of e-books that are being created.

634
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:07.720
There's a lot of online courses are being created.

635
00:42:07.720 --> 00:42:10.120
It's the same thing with online courses.

636
00:42:10.120 --> 00:42:17.560
If you say, please take Grant Cardone's last blah, blah, blah training

637
00:42:17.560 --> 00:42:24.840
and create a five-page e-book, and you upload his stuff,

638
00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:28.280
you can run into copyright infringement issues.

639
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:31.080
But you can use the tone.

640
00:42:31.080 --> 00:42:33.240
You can use the tone of others.

641
00:42:33.240 --> 00:42:35.600
Just don't do what I just showed you there.

642
00:42:35.600 --> 00:42:36.840
That's where you can run into problems.

643
00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:37.800
Any questions on that?

644
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:42.920
Because this is becoming very prominent right now.

645
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:44.400
So no questions on that?

646
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:45.960
I actually have a question on that.

647
00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:51.840
So it would be interesting in e-discovery,

648
00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:57.120
I guess if somebody was accused of copyright infringement,

649
00:42:57.120 --> 00:43:01.640
then they could go back and do e-discovery on the prompts, right?

650
00:43:05.040 --> 00:43:11.040
Copyright infringement is fact-specific based on the result,

651
00:43:11.080 --> 00:43:14.400
not based on what you did to get the result.

652
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:15.680
Oh, interesting.

653
00:43:15.680 --> 00:43:17.800
I did not know that.

654
00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:25.280
Now, if you're trying to prove the source,

655
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:28.040
and somebody in the prompt obviously typed in,

656
00:43:28.040 --> 00:43:31.240
please take Stephen King's last book and do blah, blah, blah,

657
00:43:31.240 --> 00:43:36.880
then absolutely, that gives you extra information

658
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:44.280
that you can utilize to show that that party had the intent

659
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:45.920
of performing something.

660
00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:50.120
And when it comes into intellectual property litigation,

661
00:43:50.120 --> 00:43:52.160
one of the best things you can do for your client

662
00:43:52.160 --> 00:43:56.360
is prove malicious intent or prove willful infringement.

663
00:43:56.360 --> 00:43:58.680
And if you can go into the prompt like you're saying,

664
00:43:58.680 --> 00:44:02.080
and I could say, hey, look, here it is, their prompt.

665
00:44:02.080 --> 00:44:05.720
And it says, assume the position of Stephen King,

666
00:44:05.720 --> 00:44:08.800
drafting the next chapter in his book, The Stand,

667
00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:13.440
utilize the similar characters, similar storyline,

668
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:14.800
but add the following.

669
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:19.800
That's going to be a big problem if the result is very similar.

670
00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:22.280
So I agree with you.

671
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:26.240
Yes, yes, it can be used in evidence, quite frankly.

672
00:44:26.240 --> 00:44:30.720
In litigation, we use everything as evidence if possible.

673
00:44:30.720 --> 00:44:35.400
But at the end of the day, if the result doesn't look similar,

674
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:37.280
you don't have copyright infringement.

675
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:39.040
You could have the intent of infringing,

676
00:44:39.040 --> 00:44:41.280
but not result in infringing, right?

677
00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:41.920
Interesting.

678
00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:44.560
I could have the intent of robbing you,

679
00:44:44.560 --> 00:44:48.400
but if I walk up to you and I fall down

680
00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:52.360
and I smash my face on the floor and you're never robbed,

681
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:54.720
you can't sue me for robbing you.

682
00:44:54.720 --> 00:44:57.600
So you can pull things through the plagiarism.

683
00:44:57.600 --> 00:44:59.960
So kind of coming back to that is you

684
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:04.040
could pull it through the plague scan or copy leaks

685
00:45:04.040 --> 00:45:06.960
or turn it in or whatever,

686
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:11.720
to see if it looks as though it's AI generated

687
00:45:11.720 --> 00:45:14.640
because that would show a result.

688
00:45:14.640 --> 00:45:19.640
That, and that is, that's part of a high-tech,

689
00:45:23.160 --> 00:45:28.120
very detailed strategy

690
00:45:28.160 --> 00:45:31.880
that like we're using to make determinations

691
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:33.960
as to whether or not content truly

692
00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:36.240
is artificial intelligence created or not

693
00:45:36.240 --> 00:45:38.760
and then utilize that in litigation.

694
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:43.760
So it's a, if you can use, think of it this way,

695
00:45:44.320 --> 00:45:46.920
like if you look at the content that's created

696
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:50.040
and somebody says, oh no, I created it myself,

697
00:45:50.040 --> 00:45:50.920
it's my own copyright,

698
00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:52.440
but then you use the plagiarism software

699
00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:53.560
and you realize that no,

700
00:45:53.560 --> 00:45:56.320
there's a 99% chance that this person

701
00:45:56.320 --> 00:45:58.840
used ChatGPT to create this thing.

702
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:01.080
You use that as evidence.

703
00:46:01.080 --> 00:46:04.240
Now, obviously it's their word versus the software

704
00:46:04.240 --> 00:46:06.640
and the court has to make a decision on that.

705
00:46:06.640 --> 00:46:10.720
But if you can then show that it's so very similar

706
00:46:10.720 --> 00:46:12.640
to another prior work,

707
00:46:12.640 --> 00:46:15.480
and then on top of that, you provide as evidence,

708
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:18.120
here's the prompt where they said,

709
00:46:18.120 --> 00:46:20.160
please assume the position of blah, blah, blah,

710
00:46:20.160 --> 00:46:21.680
they're dead in the water.

711
00:46:21.720 --> 00:46:24.120
Like the combination makes them dead in the water.

712
00:46:24.120 --> 00:46:26.080
Right, okay, thank you.

713
00:46:26.080 --> 00:46:27.560
Absolutely, yeah.

714
00:46:27.560 --> 00:46:28.680
Patty, go right ahead.

715
00:46:33.040 --> 00:46:34.560
Unmute.

716
00:46:34.560 --> 00:46:39.560
Okay, so a lot of art generators

717
00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:45.400
give you like prompt things that say

718
00:46:46.440 --> 00:46:49.240
in the style of a famous artist.

719
00:46:50.240 --> 00:46:55.240
Is using those kind of putting yourself in a situation

720
00:46:55.600 --> 00:46:59.800
where you might have a copyright infringement?

721
00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:01.800
That's a great question.

722
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:05.360
And the courts are leaning on the side

723
00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:09.480
of the style of someone not being protected,

724
00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:13.480
but just realize that if you're using something

725
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:15.040
like Mid Journey,

726
00:47:15.040 --> 00:47:17.600
and you're asking for the style of something,

727
00:47:17.640 --> 00:47:20.160
the way that it knows the style of something

728
00:47:20.160 --> 00:47:22.320
is by using prior works.

729
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:23.160
Right.

730
00:47:23.160 --> 00:47:26.240
And so when, you might say,

731
00:47:26.240 --> 00:47:29.080
give me the style of Picasso, right?

732
00:47:29.080 --> 00:47:31.200
Let's assume Picasso is still alive

733
00:47:31.200 --> 00:47:35.200
or like died only 10 years ago or something like that.

734
00:47:35.200 --> 00:47:38.320
And he still had legal rights in the estate.

735
00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:40.280
So if you said in the style of Picasso,

736
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:44.120
the way Mid Journey works is it's looking for Picasso works,

737
00:47:44.120 --> 00:47:47.120
and then it's creating something for you

738
00:47:47.160 --> 00:47:51.240
that is a conglomerate of modification of Picasso works.

739
00:47:51.240 --> 00:47:53.600
The problem with that is that

740
00:47:53.600 --> 00:47:56.320
Mid Journey doesn't do a copyright analysis

741
00:47:56.320 --> 00:47:58.760
to determine whether or not there's infringement or not.

742
00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:02.200
And so what it's actually giving you

743
00:48:02.200 --> 00:48:03.720
is in the style of it,

744
00:48:03.720 --> 00:48:07.200
but its definition of style is incorporation

745
00:48:07.200 --> 00:48:09.440
of the work itself.

746
00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:14.440
And so it may pull some of their content

747
00:48:14.920 --> 00:48:16.560
into what you provide.

748
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:21.840
But some of the highly intelligent AI bots out there

749
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:24.880
will know, all right, the general style means,

750
00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:29.160
the lines look in a certain direction.

751
00:48:29.160 --> 00:48:30.480
It's more abstract.

752
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:33.360
It's not like very clean lines

753
00:48:33.360 --> 00:48:36.120
like Michelangelo's work, stuff.

754
00:48:36.120 --> 00:48:39.080
It's just, they're very different looks.

755
00:48:39.080 --> 00:48:41.120
And so just keep in mind,

756
00:48:41.120 --> 00:48:43.360
if you do ask for something to be created

757
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:44.920
in the style of something,

758
00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:49.120
go into what I've shown you guys before on Google.

759
00:48:49.120 --> 00:48:49.960
Yeah.

760
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:50.960
Go in there.

761
00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:53.360
Like I'll show you guys now

762
00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:56.080
in case anybody's not familiar with this.

763
00:48:56.080 --> 00:48:58.240
Go back into Google,

764
00:48:58.240 --> 00:49:00.040
and then right over here,

765
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:03.360
once it's loaded, there we go.

766
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:05.840
Right over here, let me make it bigger.

767
00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:10.320
I don't want incognito.

768
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:11.480
Why is it going incognito?

769
00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:13.000
There we go.

770
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:13.840
Make it bigger.

771
00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:14.680
There we go.

772
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:16.720
All right.

773
00:49:18.600 --> 00:49:21.720
Can I not just scroll down?

774
00:49:21.720 --> 00:49:22.560
Yeah.

775
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:24.920
There, right over.

776
00:49:24.920 --> 00:49:26.640
I have so many bars here.

777
00:49:26.640 --> 00:49:28.680
All right, can you see the little camera there?

778
00:49:28.680 --> 00:49:29.520
Yeah.

779
00:49:29.520 --> 00:49:30.680
You click on that little camera,

780
00:49:30.680 --> 00:49:34.600
and now you just upload the image that was created.

781
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:38.200
Your question is a really good one.

782
00:49:38.200 --> 00:49:40.600
And a lot of people have been asking me

783
00:49:40.600 --> 00:49:42.040
that exact same question.

784
00:49:42.040 --> 00:49:44.720
So in general, somebody is not gonna get sued

785
00:49:45.520 --> 00:49:46.440
for creating something in the style of,

786
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:50.080
but just realize that what it creates in the style of,

787
00:49:50.080 --> 00:49:52.200
it's using prior works.

788
00:49:52.200 --> 00:49:54.880
And so if I go in right now,

789
00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:56.920
I can do this really fast.

790
00:49:56.920 --> 00:49:59.200
Fortunately, you guys got somebody training you

791
00:49:59.200 --> 00:50:00.040
that uses all.

792
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:03.800
these programs. So, so I actually know how they all work.

793
00:50:03.800 --> 00:50:07.600
So I can actually just open Discord. So now I'm in Discord

794
00:50:07.600 --> 00:50:11.600
already. And there's mid journey. And then let me just go

795
00:50:11.600 --> 00:50:19.080
into General 17. All right. So I'll share my screen with you

796
00:50:19.080 --> 00:50:23.000
guys in a second. But let me just get this thing queued up to

797
00:50:23.000 --> 00:50:41.200
use. Imagine. Imagine. There we go. A 2023 car in a field

798
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:52.760
created in the painting. A painting. There we go. I'll show

799
00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:58.760
you what this looks like in a second painting of a 2023 sports

800
00:50:58.760 --> 00:51:12.880
car in a field created in the style of say, Picasso. Let's see

801
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:17.720
how it looks. And then I'll share it with you guys. Because

802
00:51:17.720 --> 00:51:20.840
I've got all my personal stuff in here too. But I'll show it to

803
00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:30.440
you guys. It's already rendering. I'm using mine in

804
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:49.160
stealth mode too. Okay. It's Picasso too. P-I-C-A-S-S. Oh,

805
00:51:49.160 --> 00:51:57.880
yeah. P-I-C-A-S-S-O. Okay. Well, it actually did it. Let me I'm

806
00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:08.480
going to type it one more time. Slash. Imagine. A painting of a

807
00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:25.760
sports car in a field in the style of artist Picasso. Okay.

808
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:31.680
There we go. Now, let me share my screen so you can see what

809
00:52:31.680 --> 00:52:34.400
I'm talking about.

810
00:52:38.480 --> 00:53:08.240
So, this is what it interprets it as. So, it's 93%. 100%.

811
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:13.040
Okay. That's what it interprets it as. Those are paintings that

812
00:53:13.040 --> 00:53:19.040
are in the style of Picasso, right? Car in a field. That's

813
00:53:19.040 --> 00:53:23.040
the style of Picasso. Now, so the thing that you need to just

814
00:53:23.040 --> 00:53:25.760
kind of think about though is when you look at see this field

815
00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:32.240
here. When I see that, I now wonder, okay, that sky there, I

816
00:53:32.240 --> 00:53:35.200
think of like starry sky, his work, you know, stuff like that.

817
00:53:35.200 --> 00:53:40.320
So, now, I come over here and I want to take that image. So,

818
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:43.120
just to show you guys how this works so you guys would know

819
00:53:43.120 --> 00:53:51.040
how to do this. I want you three. So, here's you three.

820
00:53:51.700 --> 00:53:56.340
There it is. I click on it. Right click it. Save the image

821
00:53:56.340 --> 00:54:02.180
as. I just put it on my C drive under temp. There we go.

822
00:54:02.180 --> 00:54:05.700
That's fine. C drive temp. Alright. Save. Now, what I do

823
00:54:05.700 --> 00:54:15.540
is I just go over to my Google browser. I share my screen for

824
00:54:15.540 --> 00:54:19.140
you guys and just click over here. That that little,

825
00:54:19.140 --> 00:54:21.300
actually, let me wait till it opens. There you go. Now, you

826
00:54:21.300 --> 00:54:30.980
see that. Click on that. Upload a file. Go to C drive temp and

827
00:54:30.980 --> 00:54:33.780
grab the file.

828
00:54:35.160 --> 00:54:43.720
There we go. So, now, I've got a bunch of

829
00:54:44.160 --> 00:54:47.120
Images that are popping up here and I just want to look and see

830
00:54:47.120 --> 00:54:50.960
the backgrounds, you know, see if that background is from an

831
00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:54.320
actual Picasso, right? That's what you're doing. That's that's

832
00:54:54.320 --> 00:54:57.760
the analysis that you're doing.

833
00:54:57.760 --> 00:55:02.500
Interesting. It looks very similar.

834
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:01.560
similar to this one right here.

835
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:06.640
Where was it?

836
00:55:08.080 --> 00:55:09.540
This image right here.

837
00:55:11.560 --> 00:55:13.080
I compare this to,

838
00:55:16.140 --> 00:55:16.980
I don't know.

839
00:55:16.980 --> 00:55:18.600
Anyways, that's the way that you would do the analysis.

840
00:55:18.600 --> 00:55:20.760
I don't want to spend all your time like what,

841
00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:23.660
you guys just watch me do the work,

842
00:55:23.660 --> 00:55:25.200
but that's how you would do it.

843
00:55:25.200 --> 00:55:28.360
So using the style, not an issue.

844
00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:31.840
Just be careful because Mid-Journey and other programs

845
00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:34.660
to determine the style is actually using their work.

846
00:55:34.660 --> 00:55:36.160
So I would do an analysis.

847
00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:39.040
Peter, can I ask you a question on this?

848
00:55:39.040 --> 00:55:39.880
Let me go to Denise first.

849
00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:40.720
Oh, I'm sorry.

850
00:55:40.720 --> 00:55:42.200
Donna, let me go to Denise first, all right?

851
00:55:42.200 --> 00:55:43.960
Because she had her hand raised.

852
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:45.040
She hasn't asked anything yet.

853
00:55:45.040 --> 00:55:46.880
So Denise, go right ahead.

854
00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:53.720
So I had, there may be two questions, maybe one.

855
00:55:53.720 --> 00:55:58.720
But if you, let's say you write out a document yourself

856
00:55:59.560 --> 00:56:04.560
without the use of AI, but you upload it to AI to say,

857
00:56:05.600 --> 00:56:07.760
you know, tweak this, make it sound better.

858
00:56:08.760 --> 00:56:12.640
Is that still my work or is it AI work now?

859
00:56:12.640 --> 00:56:13.920
Yeah, that's a great question.

860
00:56:13.920 --> 00:56:17.560
It depends upon how much modification is being done.

861
00:56:17.560 --> 00:56:19.560
So if the modification is something like

862
00:56:19.560 --> 00:56:20.880
what Grammarly is doing,

863
00:56:20.880 --> 00:56:24.160
like slight modifications to things, that's not a problem.

864
00:56:24.160 --> 00:56:28.180
But if it's doing something that's more substantive,

865
00:56:28.180 --> 00:56:31.840
your original copyright will be to your original work.

866
00:56:31.840 --> 00:56:34.600
The modification should be argued to be a derivative

867
00:56:34.600 --> 00:56:38.360
or a slight modification, in which case the,

868
00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:40.720
your copyright will be to your original work,

869
00:56:40.720 --> 00:56:42.320
not modified by AI.

870
00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:44.960
But if AI is doing such minor tweaking,

871
00:56:44.960 --> 00:56:49.180
like changing the tense of sentences, right?

872
00:56:49.180 --> 00:56:53.460
Or like just basic editing

873
00:56:53.460 --> 00:56:56.780
that's not going towards any of the substance,

874
00:56:56.780 --> 00:56:58.820
then you can argue that that's still part

875
00:56:58.820 --> 00:57:00.220
of your original copyright.

876
00:57:01.100 --> 00:57:05.260
It's when that modification becomes any higher

877
00:57:05.260 --> 00:57:10.260
than just kind of like basic editing that now,

878
00:57:11.900 --> 00:57:14.820
if it is considered a derivative,

879
00:57:14.820 --> 00:57:16.820
then your copyright would be in your original work.

880
00:57:16.900 --> 00:57:19.620
And so you want to file copyright for your original work

881
00:57:19.620 --> 00:57:23.500
before you uploaded it to AI.

882
00:57:23.500 --> 00:57:28.300
And technically, since that AI modification is a derivative,

883
00:57:28.300 --> 00:57:32.980
the original copyright should cover the derivative as well,

884
00:57:32.980 --> 00:57:36.540
unless the derivative has some new subject matter

885
00:57:36.540 --> 00:57:41.540
that makes in and of itself a new copyrightable work, right?

886
00:57:42.260 --> 00:57:43.740
So it always comes down to

887
00:57:43.740 --> 00:57:45.620
how much modification is being done.

888
00:57:45.620 --> 00:57:50.620
If I upload a paragraph and I'll show you guys real quick,

889
00:57:51.380 --> 00:57:55.440
if I go to chat GPT and I take my story over here,

890
00:57:57.300 --> 00:58:01.500
here we go, I'm going to take one paragraph here,

891
00:58:01.500 --> 00:58:03.260
right click, copy.

892
00:58:03.260 --> 00:58:04.580
And I'm going to share my screen

893
00:58:04.580 --> 00:58:06.240
so you guys can see me do this.

894
00:58:08.180 --> 00:58:10.600
Yeah, I'm just taking that one paragraph there

895
00:58:10.600 --> 00:58:12.420
and I'm writing over here,

896
00:58:12.420 --> 00:58:17.420
please rewrite the following paragraph

897
00:58:21.860 --> 00:58:26.860
so as to make this story,

898
00:58:31.260 --> 00:58:32.300
no, I shouldn't say the story,

899
00:58:32.300 --> 00:58:37.300
to make this paragraph more appealing to children,

900
00:58:43.060 --> 00:58:48.060
from the ages of eight to 15 years old.

901
00:58:52.860 --> 00:58:57.860
The paragraph is as follows.

902
00:58:59.860 --> 00:59:01.140
Groovy, there you go.

903
00:59:03.220 --> 00:59:07.660
Now I enter that, that's my original paragraph.

904
00:59:09.300 --> 00:59:11.460
So now it's taking my original paragraph

905
00:59:11.500 --> 00:59:16.260
that says driven by curiosity and an inkling of adventure,

906
00:59:16.260 --> 00:59:18.740
like kids not going to know what an inkling means, right?

907
00:59:18.740 --> 00:59:21.860
So I just, and then it says notorious finger

908
00:59:21.860 --> 00:59:25.180
and nefarious intentions, kids don't know what that means.

909
00:59:25.180 --> 00:59:27.420
So now they rewrote it and it says,

910
00:59:27.420 --> 00:59:29.780
Pepe was super curious and up for an adventure.

911
00:59:29.780 --> 00:59:33.220
So he set out to find this bag of gold

912
00:59:33.220 --> 00:59:35.440
thinking it would be his ticket

913
00:59:35.440 --> 00:59:39.060
out of the crazy maze of woods, right?

914
00:59:39.100 --> 00:59:42.780
That's very different from labyrinthine woods.

915
00:59:42.780 --> 00:59:47.780
But I would argue that this over here

916
00:59:47.780 --> 00:59:51.620
is substantially different from this

917
00:59:51.620 --> 00:59:55.660
because for copyright, you don't own the idea,

918
00:59:55.660 --> 01:00:00.160
the general idea of the story, you own the written text.

919
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:02.060
That's what you own in a copyright.

920
01:00:02.060 --> 01:00:05.060
That's why they're so cheap, so inexpensive,

921
01:00:05.060 --> 01:00:07.640
because it's the written text that you own.

922
01:00:07.640 --> 01:00:09.660
So this first work over here that says,

923
01:00:09.660 --> 01:00:11.880
driven by curiosity and inkling of adventure,

924
01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:14.740
Pepper resolved to find this bag of gold,

925
01:00:14.740 --> 01:00:18.140
believing it might lead him out of the labyrinthine woods.

926
01:00:18.140 --> 01:00:22.020
His pursuit was twofold, evade the dangers lurking

927
01:00:22.020 --> 01:00:23.660
in a form of creatures with sharp teeth

928
01:00:23.660 --> 01:00:28.180
and elusive predators, and keep a vigilant eye for Felix,

929
01:00:28.180 --> 01:00:30.840
a notorious figure whose nefarious intentions

930
01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:33.120
often preceded him, right?

931
01:00:33.120 --> 01:00:34.440
That's an adult book.

932
01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:37.340
We just made a child's version that says something like,

933
01:00:37.340 --> 01:00:41.500
Dodd's scary creatures and sneaky predators hiding around.

934
01:00:41.500 --> 01:00:42.700
That's a different work.

935
01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:46.840
Chad TPT just did a modification,

936
01:00:46.840 --> 01:00:51.300
and the new work here that was created for kids,

937
01:00:51.300 --> 01:00:53.580
the copyright does not cover that.

938
01:00:53.580 --> 01:00:56.460
Because again, copyright does not cover ideas.

939
01:00:56.460 --> 01:00:59.420
It covers the specific text as written.

940
01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:04.220
But if I say, replace the word labyrinthine

941
01:01:04.220 --> 01:01:06.640
with another word, and one word's changed,

942
01:01:06.640 --> 01:01:10.220
I would argue you still own the copyright, okay?

943
01:01:10.220 --> 01:01:14.620
So it depends upon, and none of this is legal advice.

944
01:01:14.620 --> 01:01:15.460
There you go, thank you.

945
01:01:15.460 --> 01:01:16.820
I had to get that in there.

946
01:01:18.700 --> 01:01:20.860
But what if you, so what if you,

947
01:01:21.860 --> 01:01:26.740
let's say you used Chad TPT to create this,

948
01:01:26.740 --> 01:01:29.180
but then you take this version

949
01:01:29.180 --> 01:01:33.920
and put some of your own experiences in it?

950
01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:34.760
Yep.

951
01:01:34.760 --> 01:01:35.600
Like when people write things,

952
01:01:35.600 --> 01:01:37.460
and they say, I'm gonna put my story in it,

953
01:01:37.460 --> 01:01:39.240
intertwine it within the story.

954
01:01:40.780 --> 01:01:43.840
Yeah, so what you're doing is you're creating a new work

955
01:01:43.840 --> 01:01:47.500
with a modification to what's already created by AI.

956
01:01:47.500 --> 01:01:49.740
The only stuff that you can technically own

957
01:01:49.780 --> 01:01:52.380
is the new content that you add.

958
01:01:52.380 --> 01:01:54.880
So this is along the lines of the,

959
01:01:56.780 --> 01:01:57.940
well, not really.

960
01:01:57.940 --> 01:02:00.480
I was gonna say it's kind of like Zario the Don,

961
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:02.940
but it's not, because in Zario the Don,

962
01:02:02.940 --> 01:02:07.540
the images were created by AI, and the text was not.

963
01:02:07.540 --> 01:02:09.340
So I guess it's kind of similar.

964
01:02:09.340 --> 01:02:10.880
So in that case,

965
01:02:13.580 --> 01:02:16.740
the copyright was for the text only, not the images,

966
01:02:16.740 --> 01:02:18.340
because the images were created by AI.

967
01:02:18.340 --> 01:02:22.100
So you would have to be able to separate

968
01:02:22.100 --> 01:02:25.620
what's newly created from what's already there.

969
01:02:25.620 --> 01:02:29.180
So if AI creates a work,

970
01:02:29.180 --> 01:02:31.660
what you add to the created work

971
01:02:31.660 --> 01:02:33.740
needs to come to the level

972
01:02:33.740 --> 01:02:37.300
of being a newly protectable created work,

973
01:02:37.300 --> 01:02:40.120
meaning you need to modify that thing enough

974
01:02:40.120 --> 01:02:45.120
so that it's not considered the same work,

975
01:02:45.200 --> 01:02:48.480
it's modified enough so as to warrant,

976
01:02:48.480 --> 01:02:50.520
so that what you added

977
01:02:50.520 --> 01:02:53.640
warrants legal rights under copyright law.

978
01:02:53.640 --> 01:02:55.160
So this is why what people do

979
01:02:55.160 --> 01:02:58.440
is they use AI to come up with ideas.

980
01:02:58.440 --> 01:03:01.080
So now I look at that storyline and I see, okay,

981
01:03:02.280 --> 01:03:04.300
I don't know what the characters are.

982
01:03:04.300 --> 01:03:05.720
I don't know a lot of details,

983
01:03:05.720 --> 01:03:08.200
but I know I have a general idea of,

984
01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:10.840
kind of like context.

985
01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:14.020
They take that and then they draft their own story

986
01:03:14.020 --> 01:03:16.020
using that as background.

987
01:03:16.020 --> 01:03:17.660
Or the modification that you do

988
01:03:17.660 --> 01:03:21.620
would have to be so severe that it warrants,

989
01:03:21.620 --> 01:03:25.740
that what you added in and of itself warrants a copyright.

990
01:03:25.740 --> 01:03:27.420
Now, this is if you want the copyright.

991
01:03:27.420 --> 01:03:30.140
Just keep in mind, this is all if you want the copyright.

992
01:03:30.140 --> 01:03:33.180
You don't care about the copyright, none of this matters.

993
01:03:33.180 --> 01:03:36.020
Like you can take that thing,

994
01:03:36.020 --> 01:03:37.460
slap a cover on it,

995
01:03:37.460 --> 01:03:39.380
or make it an ebook and sell it,

996
01:03:39.380 --> 01:03:41.180
and nothing's gonna happen.

997
01:03:41.180 --> 01:03:42.880
Like you're not gonna run into any problems.

998
01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:45.140
You can't put a copyright notice on it,

999
01:03:45.140 --> 01:03:49.720
because if you do, that's lying to the public,

1000
01:03:49.720 --> 01:03:52.200
but you could sell them like hotcakes.

1001
01:03:52.200 --> 01:03:54.240
So maybe you don't care.

1002
01:03:54.240 --> 01:03:57.760
But if you have the original draft created by AI,

1003
01:03:57.760 --> 01:04:00.880
you cannot do just slight modifications

1004
01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:02.680
and expect to own the copyright.

1005
01:04:02.680 --> 01:04:06.600
It needs, what you add needs to, in and of itself,

1006
01:04:06.600 --> 01:04:07.960
by itself,

1007
01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:12.160
warrant legal rights under copyright.

1008
01:04:12.200 --> 01:04:14.880
So there has to be substantial changes modified.

1009
01:04:14.880 --> 01:04:16.920
You can't just, now, in your situation,

1010
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:18.760
you're talking about adding your own context

1011
01:04:18.760 --> 01:04:20.040
and your own story.

1012
01:04:20.040 --> 01:04:22.400
Yeah, if you add your own context and your own story,

1013
01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:25.400
I'd imagine, depending upon how much you add,

1014
01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:28.240
that it would warrant some level of copyright protection.

1015
01:04:30.080 --> 01:04:33.360
Denise had a, no, Donna had a follow-up

1016
01:04:35.120 --> 01:04:36.240
before I went over to Denise.

1017
01:04:36.240 --> 01:04:39.480
So let me go to Donna, and then we'll close on Donna.

1018
01:04:39.480 --> 01:04:42.320
Yeah, I just, not legal advice,

1019
01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:47.320
but I'm just curious as to whether you are writing contracts

1020
01:04:47.720 --> 01:04:52.080
around AI,

1021
01:04:52.080 --> 01:04:55.640
meaning either people are attesting

1022
01:04:55.640 --> 01:04:58.600
that they don't use AI or,

1023
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:15.000
Or, like, I noticed that there's such a cottage industry just like flowers of AI blooming everywhere in all kinds of different business models, which is awesome. Right.

1024
01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:30.880
But are you writing the contracts for any businesses that are using AI in just in in their new business?

1025
01:05:32.040 --> 01:05:34.640
When you say writing the contract, contracts for what?

1026
01:05:35.040 --> 01:05:44.120
For, like, terms of service, you know, where people are, you know, where they have an AI offering.

1027
01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:47.560
You know, they have an offering, maybe using AI.

1028
01:05:49.000 --> 01:06:05.320
Yeah, so the terms and conditions from what I've seen, the contracts that are being provided are highly, how do you put it, highly focused on indemnification, warnings to the public.

1029
01:06:06.520 --> 01:06:11.040
So as an example, I'll show you one real fast.

1030
01:06:14.120 --> 01:06:22.080
Here's one that I really dislike, personally, but I'll show you what they did.

1031
01:06:29.480 --> 01:06:29.960
Here it is.

1032
01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:31.840
I think the public doesn't know.

1033
01:06:31.880 --> 01:06:38.960
I think a lot of the majority of the public, I still don't think they realize privacy, security.

1034
01:06:39.520 --> 01:06:40.720
Oh, yeah, they don't know.

1035
01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:42.160
They really don't.

1036
01:06:42.160 --> 01:06:50.080
The majority, over 90% of the public, I'd even argue 95% of the public are not aware of the things you guys know about.

1037
01:06:51.000 --> 01:07:05.600
And they're becoming aware because I'm seeing it in newspapers, in the news, in media, like it's starting to flood the media where people are going, oh, that I didn't realize that such and such company was using AI.

1038
01:07:07.240 --> 01:07:08.840
Is my information secure?

1039
01:07:09.440 --> 01:07:10.640
Is it in their database?

1040
01:07:11.880 --> 01:07:16.560
These are questions they're just starting to think about, which is quite frightening.

1041
01:07:16.640 --> 01:07:22.720
But these are the kind of terms and conditions that I'm finding from sites that are using AI.

1042
01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:27.600
They're throwing these statements like here.

1043
01:07:29.040 --> 01:07:29.520
Here's one.

1044
01:07:30.280 --> 01:07:38.320
Furthermore, the user acknowledges that we have no obligation or duty to perform trademark copyright or service mark searches to validate the logo.

1045
01:07:38.840 --> 01:07:41.720
It's not infringing on any trademark copyright or service marks.

1046
01:07:41.720 --> 01:07:46.120
We encourage the user to perform their own independent searches.

1047
01:07:47.560 --> 01:07:50.760
The other thing that they'll use is indemnification clauses.

1048
01:07:51.240 --> 01:08:07.440
You know, let's say we hereby, by your using our site, if you use any of the content that's created by our site, you hereby agree to indemnify us if there's ever a lawsuit for use of any of the information that's provided by our site.

1049
01:08:07.960 --> 01:08:08.760
Oh, here's one.

1050
01:08:09.040 --> 01:08:17.680
The user agrees to indemnify, defend and hold us harmless from any liabilities, claims, expenses, damages, and causes the writing out of the user to purchase logo.

1051
01:08:18.479 --> 01:08:20.640
Yeah, like this is what they're doing.

1052
01:08:21.279 --> 01:08:23.479
This is a logo AI.com.

1053
01:08:24.080 --> 01:08:35.840
So if you go through their site and you use their site, what I find shocking is when you go through this site, I'm just.

1054
01:08:37.439 --> 01:09:06.960
I'm just going to say Flaret is the new trademark, I'm going to say it's for sports, I'm going to use cold colors, confirm, let's just use Futuristic for the font, and they give you this logo here, here's all these logos that it creates, and there's no way in the world that this cube over here is not owned by another party, there's no way.

1055
01:09:07.439 --> 01:09:15.479
Or even here, the two leaves with the dots, there's no way somebody is not using that, like these things definitely are being used by others.

1056
01:09:15.720 --> 01:09:31.279
But let's say I look at this and I say, you know what, I really like this one, Flaret, this is what I want, I'm going to buy it, I click buy now, you know, and I purchased it from them.

1057
01:09:31.600 --> 01:09:50.600
I just spent like $49, $59 for these people for their automated system, and you mean to tell me that in their terms and conditions, it says, user agrees to indemnify, defend, and hold us harmless from all liabilities, claims, expenses, damages, and costs arising out of the use of the purchase logo?

1058
01:09:50.880 --> 01:09:52.359
Right, right.

1059
01:09:52.520 --> 01:09:54.400
This is their business model.

1060
01:09:54.400 --> 01:10:00.000
I think, I think one of the things that concerns me is like, for me, maybe

1061
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:07.120
for you and for anybody who, you know, does their business, intellectual, you know,

1062
01:10:07.120 --> 01:10:14.880
property, whatever. I would love to use a service that does the marketing, you know, where it says,

1063
01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:21.280
well, you know, you put in a topic, blah, blah, blah. We'll write the, we'll write 15 blogs for

1064
01:10:21.280 --> 01:10:29.120
you or 20 blogs for you or whatever. Like I know content to scale or content at scale. I forgot

1065
01:10:29.440 --> 01:10:34.960
how it's mentioned content and scale, but they, they go in and they have the plagiarism checker,

1066
01:10:35.680 --> 01:10:41.120
but wow, what a powerful service where they could do that. You can upload a video,

1067
01:10:41.120 --> 01:10:47.120
you can get all these different videos from it, but yeah, there's one right here. How do you know

1068
01:10:48.400 --> 01:10:54.640
if, how do you know that they're not, that you're not going to get to copyright infringement?

1069
01:10:55.600 --> 01:11:05.840
Yeah. What you just asked is, is one of the biggest issues in this market. But as of right

1070
01:11:05.840 --> 01:11:11.760
now, like I said, 90, 95% of the people don't realize it's an issue. They don't even know.

1071
01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:17.280
I mean, it's so powerful to be able to do that, but how do you know that they didn't

1072
01:11:17.280 --> 01:11:22.240
scrape and plagiarize? Well, the good part about some of these companies here that are,

1073
01:11:22.800 --> 01:11:29.920
what they do is you put in a video and then it, it creates like 20 different clips of your own

1074
01:11:29.920 --> 01:11:35.600
video. It's using your video. So it's not using somebody else's video. It's taking your video

1075
01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:41.600
and it's clipping like 20 second segments of your video, giving you like a title on it,

1076
01:11:42.240 --> 01:11:47.840
providing subtitles to it. So it's your own content. The issue there that I have is not so

1077
01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:51.920
much. Can I get sued for copyright infringement? Cause it's my content. So I'm not worried about

1078
01:11:52.560 --> 01:11:56.560
getting sued for copyright infringement with my own content. What I'm concerned about is that

1079
01:11:56.560 --> 01:12:05.360
my content now becomes available to another party. That's where my concern is. And so what you want

1080
01:12:05.360 --> 01:12:10.560
to be looking for, and maybe this is Ray, maybe what we should do is create a checklist.

1081
01:12:11.440 --> 01:12:17.360
You know, if you're going to go into marketing, the following are, are the big, if you're going

1082
01:12:17.360 --> 01:12:23.280
to go into marketing using AI, the following are the most important things to look for,

1083
01:12:23.280 --> 01:12:27.440
you know, number one, number two, number three, number four, number five, something like that.

1084
01:12:28.160 --> 01:12:34.800
But I mean, one of the items on there should be what happens to the content you upload.

1085
01:12:35.440 --> 01:12:41.360
Does it become part of their, of their engine? It does. That's a big, no, no. You know, number two

1086
01:12:41.360 --> 01:12:49.120
is where's the gathering the content that it's giving you for your own ads or for your other

1087
01:12:49.120 --> 01:12:53.840
suggestions for your logos or the suggestions for your trademarks. Where's that coming from?

1088
01:12:54.480 --> 01:12:59.520
If it's gathering that from scrape data that can result in trademark infringement or copyright

1089
01:12:59.520 --> 01:13:06.720
infringement, you know, like number three, if there are a lot of clauses for indemnification

1090
01:13:06.720 --> 01:13:10.960
and warnings that they're not doing trademark searches, copyright searches, chances are

1091
01:13:12.080 --> 01:13:19.920
that information that you receive has not been vetted, has not been checked, and you run the

1092
01:13:19.920 --> 01:13:28.640
risk of potentially walking into a lawsuit unless you, you take the, the, the position yourself

1093
01:13:28.640 --> 01:13:34.320
and do the analysis yourself. You know, those are like the top three things. And so now,

1094
01:13:35.040 --> 01:13:40.880
now people know that they can say, okay, this one over here is ad creative AI. What happens

1095
01:13:40.880 --> 01:13:45.840
to my first question? Anything I enter in here, are they going to save it? Oh, they are by I'm

1096
01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:52.880
out of here. Like immediately right off the bat, I'm done by, you know, number two. Oh, well,

1097
01:13:53.440 --> 01:13:57.600
the things that you're suggesting are those from my content or the things that you're suggesting,

1098
01:13:57.680 --> 01:14:03.920
you know, from others, was that scraped information it was by like, I don't want to

1099
01:14:03.920 --> 01:14:08.720
be using scrape stuff, because I don't know if it's if it's potentially safe or not. And then

1100
01:14:08.720 --> 01:14:13.680
if I'm okay with using scrape stuff, great. My next step is I've got to do a trademark search

1101
01:14:13.680 --> 01:14:18.400
or copyright search myself, because I've essentially walked into an area of potential

1102
01:14:18.400 --> 01:14:24.000
high liability. And I want to make sure that I don't run into vulnerability, a solution to this

1103
01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:30.800
would be using something like Adobe Firefly, where the content is all it's, it's, it's all

1104
01:14:30.800 --> 01:14:36.320
licensed. It's all open source. So there's no chance of being sued. Actually, I should never

1105
01:14:36.320 --> 01:14:42.800
say that. There's always a chance of being sued, but your chances are lower. Right? I think Ray,

1106
01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:48.720
maybe even just those three in a new actually got four, I just typed them all out as you as you

1107
01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:54.640
explain them so that we can create a new ebook and use that as a lead magnet to help people.

1108
01:14:55.280 --> 01:14:59.760
You know, so I think that would be good. So yeah, there's certain questions

1109
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:06.800
of that, before you use any AI program, you need to ask yourself, you know, what's happening with

1110
01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:11.760
my content? Where are they getting their content? You know, what do I do with those results? You know,

1111
01:15:12.400 --> 01:15:22.320
those are top issues. Yeah. Did you ever get access to CheckGPT Enterprise? Enterprise? No,

1112
01:15:22.320 --> 01:15:25.840
no, I haven't grabbed access to it yet. Have you checked it out yet?

1113
01:15:25.840 --> 01:15:32.800
Have I? I can't get them to answer me. I think they want a lot of money.

1114
01:15:33.600 --> 01:15:40.160
And so I'm on. I think I have a friend of mine who's on the inside. So I'm going to give him a

1115
01:15:40.160 --> 01:15:46.960
call and see if he can let me access his version. And I'll let you guys know what I think, because

1116
01:15:46.960 --> 01:15:54.080
I'm extremely curious about this. I think we still have all the risks, if I'm not mistaken,

1117
01:15:54.080 --> 01:16:03.120
with 3.5 and 4, but we don't have the risks of them. So what do you have to do to capture

1118
01:16:03.120 --> 01:16:09.280
our documentation, right, for Enterprise? Right. What I've heard about Enterprise is that it's not

1119
01:16:09.280 --> 01:16:17.120
quote unquote as sexy as the other versions, meaning the content that's being provided is

1120
01:16:17.120 --> 01:16:27.520
more dry. It's not as rich. It's working off of what you provide. It's not taking your results.

1121
01:16:27.520 --> 01:16:34.960
It's not taking what you enter and your results and using that to give you new selections. It's

1122
01:16:34.960 --> 01:16:43.040
always a clean suggestion, meaning that what you're doing is not influencing it, which kind

1123
01:16:43.040 --> 01:16:47.760
of goes contrary to the whole purpose of why you're using it in the first place. You're trying

1124
01:16:47.760 --> 01:16:53.440
to get it smarter and smarter to know you better and better to give you better results.

1125
01:16:53.440 --> 01:17:01.200
But if the software itself, ChatGPT Enterprise, the entire intent is not to take what you're

1126
01:17:01.200 --> 01:17:05.360
entering in your results and put it into their system, then it's kind of contrary to the whole

1127
01:17:05.360 --> 01:17:10.880
reason why you got it in the first place. You can get some cool results, but they're not going to be

1128
01:17:10.880 --> 01:17:16.880
influenced by what you're doing, not highly influenced, which is that's the number one

1129
01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:22.640
criticism that I'm seeing on the Internet right now is that people don't think the results are as

1130
01:17:22.640 --> 01:17:31.120
rich because it's not working off of your entered. It's not working. It's not saving what you enter

1131
01:17:31.120 --> 01:17:36.960
and it's not learning from what you enter. It's giving you results based on what it already has.

1132
01:17:37.680 --> 01:17:41.680
I see. Yeah, but it's the privacy that's...

1133
01:17:42.480 --> 01:17:48.800
That's the most important. And quite frankly, if I had to be honest about it,

1134
01:17:48.800 --> 01:17:55.680
if I have a conference call with a client and I want to take that thing, transcribe it,

1135
01:17:55.680 --> 01:18:00.800
upload it into ChatGPT and say, hey, draft an email to me highlighting the top five issues

1136
01:18:00.800 --> 01:18:05.200
that we had on that call and setting an agenda for our next meeting next month,

1137
01:18:06.160 --> 01:18:10.400
while inspiring the client to want to continue working with me and making me look highly

1138
01:18:10.400 --> 01:18:16.800
intelligent, boom, it's done in 30 seconds. I don't really care that I'm not training the system.

1139
01:18:17.760 --> 01:18:25.200
I just want boom, boom, boom. That's why I'm using it. So I don't mind that. And now it's

1140
01:18:25.200 --> 01:18:33.200
confidential private information. So that's why I would use it. Not because I want to create an

1141
01:18:33.200 --> 01:18:42.480
MIT only client directory within ChatGPT. So now it knows that I always work with this one person

1142
01:18:42.480 --> 01:18:46.880
and what kind of language they use and what kind of subtleties there are in the language.

1143
01:18:46.880 --> 01:18:53.440
And I don't care about that. That's not my interest. I want boom. I want to come out

1144
01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:59.520
quick stuff. And so it doesn't really bother me all that much. I'd rather have the privacy and

1145
01:18:59.520 --> 01:19:06.480
use enterprise and have a drier experience as long as it was quick and gave me some level of

1146
01:19:06.480 --> 01:19:13.280
creativity. So, all right, my friends. So, man, we covered a lot of stuff, which I knew we were

1147
01:19:13.280 --> 01:19:19.440
going to end up doing. We covered a lot of stuff. So that was going to be it for now. I think what

1148
01:19:19.440 --> 01:19:24.560
we're going to do is we will, since you guys are in a loon, when we create that ebook, we'll just

1149
01:19:24.560 --> 01:19:30.560
give you guys a copy at no cost. Like we'll just send it over to you guys. All right. Just so you

1150
01:19:30.560 --> 01:19:42.880
have it. And so you're aware on the on Friday, the boom, boom, boom, 15th and Saturday, the 16th,

1151
01:19:43.520 --> 01:19:49.760
we're running a content creator focused.

1152
01:19:53.840 --> 01:19:57.120
We call it I don't know if we call it a word. It's it's called a boot camp.

1153
01:19:57.680 --> 01:19:59.440
And the reason why is because we're going into

1154
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:02.960
It's a lot of detail for content creators only.

1155
01:20:02.960 --> 01:20:07.120
So it's, what is the name that we came up with, Rae?

1156
01:20:08.360 --> 01:20:10.520
Content creators legal bootcamp.

1157
01:20:10.520 --> 01:20:12.960
Content creators legal bootcamp, yeah.

1158
01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:14.800
So what we're gonna do is we're gonna help

1159
01:20:14.800 --> 01:20:16.800
content creators understand what they can do

1160
01:20:16.800 --> 01:20:18.120
and what they can't do.

1161
01:20:18.120 --> 01:20:19.640
What are the things you need to worry about

1162
01:20:19.640 --> 01:20:23.600
before you become highly influential

1163
01:20:23.600 --> 01:20:25.960
or before you go viral?

1164
01:20:25.960 --> 01:20:28.040
But if you're doing eBooks,

1165
01:20:28.040 --> 01:20:31.680
if you're doing T-shirts using logos

1166
01:20:31.680 --> 01:20:32.840
and other things like that,

1167
01:20:32.840 --> 01:20:34.000
if you have blogs,

1168
01:20:34.000 --> 01:20:39.000
if you have TikTok, Instagram,

1169
01:20:39.160 --> 01:20:40.080
those kind of people,

1170
01:20:40.080 --> 01:20:43.120
like people that are really exclusively content creators,

1171
01:20:43.120 --> 01:20:47.240
it's gonna be a two-day bootcamp just for them,

1172
01:20:47.240 --> 01:20:48.800
hour and a half each day.

1173
01:20:51.080 --> 01:20:53.680
And it's gonna be a Q&A session that'll be there.

1174
01:20:53.680 --> 01:20:57.400
But this is the first time that what we're doing is

1175
01:20:57.400 --> 01:21:00.440
when you register, you get to choose your experience.

1176
01:21:00.440 --> 01:21:03.920
You can just be there and listen, and that's free,

1177
01:21:03.920 --> 01:21:07.720
or you can choose the VIP experience and be there,

1178
01:21:07.720 --> 01:21:10.080
but then ask questions and submit questions

1179
01:21:10.080 --> 01:21:12.240
and get answers live,

1180
01:21:12.240 --> 01:21:13.840
which is gonna drive the people

1181
01:21:13.840 --> 01:21:16.320
who do not do that crazy, quite frankly.

1182
01:21:16.320 --> 01:21:17.720
I know how this is gonna happen.

1183
01:21:17.720 --> 01:21:19.320
I know exactly what's gonna happen.

1184
01:21:19.320 --> 01:21:20.160
People are gonna go,

1185
01:21:20.160 --> 01:21:21.680
but my scenario is slightly different.

1186
01:21:21.680 --> 01:21:24.400
It's like the people that are in VIP

1187
01:21:24.400 --> 01:21:25.840
will be able to get their questions answered.

1188
01:21:25.840 --> 01:21:26.760
The others won't.

1189
01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:30.280
But they'll have the advantage of learning, which is good.

1190
01:21:30.280 --> 01:21:34.280
So the workshop or the bootcamp-

1191
01:21:36.960 --> 01:21:38.560
It's a bootcamp.

1192
01:21:38.560 --> 01:21:40.040
I've never used the word bootcamp before.

1193
01:21:40.040 --> 01:21:41.440
This is the first time we ever did that.

1194
01:21:41.440 --> 01:21:43.960
I think it's a nice name for this.

1195
01:21:43.960 --> 01:21:44.920
Bootcamps are fun though,

1196
01:21:44.920 --> 01:21:46.920
but they are on the more technical side of things.

1197
01:21:46.920 --> 01:21:49.560
They are tech, yeah, we're gonna get very technical.

1198
01:21:49.560 --> 01:21:50.400
Rich with information.

1199
01:21:50.400 --> 01:21:52.800
I mean, this is really for content creators.

1200
01:21:52.800 --> 01:21:55.960
So for those of you that know content creators,

1201
01:21:57.200 --> 01:21:59.600
we'll let you guys know the link for it

1202
01:21:59.600 --> 01:22:00.840
and you can send them over.

1203
01:22:00.840 --> 01:22:02.320
Yes, ma'am.

1204
01:22:02.320 --> 01:22:05.320
Oh, and if you have not already been registered

1205
01:22:05.320 --> 01:22:10.320
and approved for an affiliate membership

1206
01:22:10.320 --> 01:22:12.920
in our affiliate program, reach out to me.

1207
01:22:12.920 --> 01:22:14.320
We'll get you signed up and set up

1208
01:22:14.320 --> 01:22:16.320
so that you guys can share them with your friends

1209
01:22:16.320 --> 01:22:18.320
and colleagues and family and loved ones

1210
01:22:18.320 --> 01:22:20.160
and everyone you guys wanna help

1211
01:22:20.160 --> 01:22:23.480
or you know who are content creators.

1212
01:22:23.480 --> 01:22:25.640
And we'll get you guys set up.

1213
01:22:25.640 --> 01:22:28.080
Yeah, and there's a lot of different levels

1214
01:22:28.080 --> 01:22:28.920
of content creators.

1215
01:22:28.920 --> 01:22:29.960
There are people that just dabble

1216
01:22:29.960 --> 01:22:32.160
and there's people that make a living out of it.

1217
01:22:32.160 --> 01:22:35.200
And so, but in either case, as an affiliate,

1218
01:22:35.200 --> 01:22:36.280
if you refer people over,

1219
01:22:36.280 --> 01:22:39.400
you get percentages right off the top.

1220
01:22:39.400 --> 01:22:41.400
Yes, Patty.

1221
01:22:41.400 --> 01:22:44.920
Yeah, what is the cost of it gonna be?

1222
01:22:44.920 --> 01:22:45.760
It's free.

1223
01:22:47.200 --> 01:22:48.920
It's a free training.

1224
01:22:50.800 --> 01:22:52.880
The VIP is gonna have a cost.

1225
01:22:52.880 --> 01:22:54.920
VIP is $95.

1226
01:22:56.160 --> 01:23:01.160
Yeah, and with VIP, they get a copy of the replay

1227
01:23:03.120 --> 01:23:06.600
plus they get a ticket to the next Protect Your Idea

1228
01:23:06.600 --> 01:23:08.960
challenge, which you're familiar with.

1229
01:23:08.960 --> 01:23:10.120
You know what that's like.

1230
01:23:10.120 --> 01:23:11.160
Right, yeah.

1231
01:23:11.160 --> 01:23:13.880
Those that are two main things in it, right?

1232
01:23:13.880 --> 01:23:16.040
We just finalized the details last night.

1233
01:23:16.040 --> 01:23:18.760
Yes, the replays, it's the Q&A

1234
01:23:18.760 --> 01:23:21.040
and it's the challenge ticket.

1235
01:23:21.040 --> 01:23:24.080
Right, so they get all of that for $95.

1236
01:23:24.080 --> 01:23:29.080
Okay, and so is the VIP $95 for us also?

1237
01:23:29.480 --> 01:23:30.520
Yes, yeah.

1238
01:23:30.520 --> 01:23:33.440
For the people who are Alune, you can obviously be there,

1239
01:23:33.440 --> 01:23:38.440
but the VIP, because we're gonna end up having a limit

1240
01:23:39.120 --> 01:23:40.960
of how many people we're gonna let into this one

1241
01:23:40.960 --> 01:23:44.720
because content creators,

1242
01:23:44.720 --> 01:23:45.960
there's a lot of content creators.

1243
01:23:45.960 --> 01:23:46.800
Yeah, there are.

1244
01:23:46.800 --> 01:23:49.000
But I want people to be able to ask questions.

1245
01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:50.960
And so I think what we're gonna do

1246
01:23:50.960 --> 01:23:53.320
is we're probably gonna limit the VIP

1247
01:23:53.360 --> 01:23:54.960
to like a hundred people max,

1248
01:23:55.800 --> 01:23:58.520
so that people can ask questions and engage.

1249
01:23:58.520 --> 01:24:02.120
Otherwise, I think we have too many people in VIP,

1250
01:24:02.120 --> 01:24:04.160
it'll probably get chaotic.

1251
01:24:04.160 --> 01:24:06.880
People will say, my question wasn't answered, blah, blah.

1252
01:24:06.880 --> 01:24:08.080
And I don't wanna deal with all that.

1253
01:24:08.080 --> 01:24:10.920
So I'm just trying to do this to get the information out.

1254
01:24:10.920 --> 01:24:14.280
And at the same time, when we're spending money on ads,

1255
01:24:14.280 --> 01:24:17.480
have that covered by what people are paying for the stuff.

1256
01:24:20.120 --> 01:24:21.760
I think that's it, right, Ray?

1257
01:24:21.760 --> 01:24:23.560
So you'll hear about this by email.

1258
01:24:23.560 --> 01:24:25.240
We'll send you an email.

1259
01:24:25.240 --> 01:24:27.840
If you're not an affiliate, you might wanna do that

1260
01:24:27.840 --> 01:24:30.040
if you have a large network.

1261
01:24:30.040 --> 01:24:31.160
And then separate from that,

1262
01:24:31.160 --> 01:24:35.440
we recently, only yesterday, hired an affiliate manager.

1263
01:24:35.440 --> 01:24:39.000
And so they're going to be working with public networks

1264
01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:42.160
to start getting the word out to other people

1265
01:24:42.160 --> 01:24:44.000
so that we can help more people

1266
01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:46.000
and turn this into a larger business.

1267
01:24:47.240 --> 01:24:50.520
And I think with that, I am going to close.

1268
01:24:50.520 --> 01:24:51.360
Right, Ray?

1269
01:24:51.360 --> 01:24:52.480
Nothing else, right?

1270
01:24:52.480 --> 01:24:53.320
Okay, cool.

1271
01:24:53.320 --> 01:24:54.160
Yeah, I think that's it.

1272
01:24:54.160 --> 01:24:55.320
All right, well, bless you guys.

1273
01:24:55.320 --> 01:24:56.880
It was good seeing all of you.

1274
01:24:56.880 --> 01:24:58.640
Your smiling faces.

1275
01:24:58.640 --> 01:24:59.480
And-

1276
01:24:59.480 --> 01:25:00.320
Thank you all.

1277
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:01.560
Y'all have a good evening.

1278
01:25:01.800 --> 01:25:05.040
You too, Donna. I love your questions. Yeah, absolutely.

1279
01:25:05.720 --> 01:25:09.720
All right, reaching out to you soon. So anyway, have a good

1280
01:25:09.720 --> 01:25:11.840
evening, everybody. It's good to see everybody.

1281
01:25:12.080 --> 01:25:15.200
I bless you guys. Take care, Denise. Take care of yourself.

1282
01:25:15.440 --> 01:25:17.360
Bye, Tanya. See you later, Patty.