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Well, boom, boom, boom.

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I think we're good.

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Sunship Masterclass Session 10.

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Hope you guys have been enjoying all of the other sessions, all of the other classes.

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It's so awesome.

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What an honor it is for me to be part of this group and to be rolling with gangsters, to

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be rolling with these amazing spiritual gangsters.

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And so if you're going to watch the replay, if you're watching the replay, please just

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hashtag replay.

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I know in this season of my life, I'm coming on at awkward times in New Zealand, and that's

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fine.

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We got to do it when we can.

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And so if you're watching the replay, hashtag replay.

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If you're here, please say hello.

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It's always good to interact and know what's going on and who's here.

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What's up, Doug?

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So good to see you, man.

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Hope you're well.

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Hope things are well.

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So today I'm just quickly talking about the subject of being like our Papa, of being like

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our father.

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And last week we talked about the orphan who stayed home, how we have so much access to

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things that we don't really realize, and how for years we have celebrated the prodigal

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son coming home and have made that the pinnacle and have made that the be all and the end

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all is that I once was lost and now I'm found.

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And that's kind of the end where I talked about how I know so many people that have

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been part of church and grew up around church and knew all the things of God, but we put

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a cap on his actual plans for us.

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And so you can check out that session from last week.

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And I'm just recapping a little bit.

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And the week before we talked about who do I say I am and how important it is for me

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to own the identity that Papa has given me, the identity that God has given you, how important

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it is for us to own that identity.

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And it's not enough just to know that he feels a certain way about you or he feels a certain

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way about me, but it's more important that I actually take ownership of that and start

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to walk in a way that is worthy of how he sees me.

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And I start to walk in the identity he's given me and not just look at it as his view, but

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allow his view of me to become my view of me and step into that destiny.

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So those are the last two sessions that we've kind of done.

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And today I'm just talking about like father, like son, and how you just can't help but

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have characteristics of your dad or your mom.

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Before we start, I just want to say a little prayer and just allow Holy Spirit to do his

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So Father, I just thank you.

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I thank you for every person in this group.

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I thank you for what you're doing.

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I thank you for your heart towards us.

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I thank you for your love, your unconditional, unending, beautiful agape love for us.

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I thank you that you created us, formed us in our mother's womb with a purpose, on purpose,

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for a purpose, that you fearfully and wonderfully made us and that we are your workmanship.

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The Bible says that we are your workmanship.

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We are a work of art that you created from your heart.

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We're an expression, a manifestation of your heart and your desires and your thoughts.

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Thank you, Lord, for everything, for everything.

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I just release this next 20, 30 minutes into your hands, God, and I pray whoever needs

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to hear whatever's about to come out will hear it and it will be sealed in their spirit

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in Jesus' name.

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We love you, Lord.

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We love you, Lord.

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You know, I'm going through a crazy week this week, super busy, so many things happening.

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God's doing so many things and more and more and more I realize the importance of being

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able to sit in the seat of rest.

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You know, I'm fascinated.

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that Jesus, the Lord of the Sabbath, Jesus, who is rest.

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I'm fascinated by the subject of rest

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because he ends up producing.

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In the book of John at the end,

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it says that Jesus did so much stuff

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that there's not enough books to write.

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There's not enough books to cover what he did.

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I'm fascinated by that.

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And so I've been just practicing,

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just sitting in this rest, sitting in that place

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where producing is just a byproduct, you know?

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and just sit there and receive

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and just drop all the cares of the world

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and all the pressures and all this kind of stuff.

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So let's get into this thing.

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Yes, Doug, we are doing well, pushing through,

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just like I know you are.

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Awesome, man, awesome.

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And hi, Leah, two of my favorite people in the world,

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Doug and Leah, awesome hearts.

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So I'm just quickly gonna get into it.

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It's a short kind of teaching

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unless something crazy happens, which may do.

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But let's get into this thing.

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So it's intriguing to me that John 3 says

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that when I became born again, I am now born from above

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where I was dropped off on earth

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and I had an earthly father, earthly mother,

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and earthly connection to my parents.

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I now am born from above,

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directly connected to my father who is God.

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You are now, you are born from above.

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even the revelation that's been coming

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of how he is my father.

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I am a son of God.

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It is not a thing that people just say to feel good.

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It is not just a nice theoretical thing to hear.

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It is a reality, a spiritual reality

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that is longing to manifest in our natural existence.

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And Kylie, thank you, thank you for that encouragement.

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And so just this realization

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has been pulling me into deeper realms

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even while I read this book

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and I read about Jesus and start to see

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that actually I'm called to walk like he did.

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comes from the life of Jesus

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because he only did what he saw his father doing.

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Like father, like son is Jesus is the father,

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revealing the father.

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And if you wanna know the father, you can see it in Jesus.

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And so then I started to understand

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that I am actually a son of God and he is my father,

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which means that I am called that my real destiny,

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my real excitement of life,

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my real purpose is to walk like my father.

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And you know, when I was coming up with this thing

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and Benji sent me a post,

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he sent me a message just saying,

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hey, can you send me a picture of you and your dad?

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You know, I'll use that picture.

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And I started to think of how many times

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people have said to me, you were just like your father.

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Oh, you're like John.

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You know, my dad's name is John.

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They'd be like, oh, you did that like John

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or you look so much like John.

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And I'd be like, what?

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Like, I don't even see it.

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I don't even see it, but they would see it.

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I'm gonna try and look like John Wilson.

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I am gonna try and have the mannerisms of John Wilson.

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I never once in my life thought that,

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hey, I'm gonna try and manufacture something in me

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that looks like my earthly dad.

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and now I'm 33, I'll be 34 next month.

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I've had countless people,

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especially people that know my dad really well,

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who would say, oh, that's just like John.

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people would say, man, that's the upbringing.

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And these are things that I couldn't even see.

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I started to realize how much,

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when you just be a son,

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how much of your dad just rubs off on you.

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How much of your dad just rubs off on you.

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is that we try so hard.

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We try so hard to be like our father,

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that we end up doing, doing, doing,

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and we don't just receive what we already are.

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And so I started to think of, man, I, I've never ever had to be like, Oh, my,

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my DNA, you know, my, my DNA that I got from my dad, I just received it.

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I just received it.

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I didn't work for it.

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My dad's Indian.

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I didn't try hard to be Indian.

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I didn't work really hard to, to carry everything that's in my DNA.

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Gift received.

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And so I started to realize, man, I'm a, I'm a son of God.

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Like I carry his DNA just received, but I don't have to work and strive and

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try really hard that I can just receive.

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And the more we just receive, the more we can be.

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And the more we just be, the more we do.

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And this whole concept of like father, like son just starts to manifest.

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This is the beauty of what happened at the cross and the beauty of

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us being able to just receive.

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You know, last night we were with George and Banoff and he

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shared this amazing thing.

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He was like, Jesus is walking with his disciples in the flesh.

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And imagine that you get to hang out with Jesus and touch Jesus.

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Like John really took advantage of that.

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John's like leaning on Jesus's bosom.

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So imagine you could touch Jesus and you would be like, man, this is awesome.

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Even now, some of us are like, this is awesome.

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I wish I could just walk with Jesus in the flesh.

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And many times I catch myself thinking like that, like, Oh, just if I was,

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if I was alive in those days, but then Jesus goes, man, I need to go.

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And the disciples would be like, what?

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You can't go.

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Like, imagine if we're rolling with Jesus and one day he's like, I need to go.

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I'm going.

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We will be like, no, Jesus don't go.

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How can you go?

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Now I understand when Peter, Jesus says to Peter, I'm going to go and suffer all

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these things.

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Peter's like, no way, no way.

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I'm not letting you go, Jesus.

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And Jesus is like, no, I'm going.

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But then Jesus says, it is better that I go.

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And you imagine the dynamic here.

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Like we're hanging out with the, in the flesh, son of God.

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And we're like, man, this is awesome.

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I'm hanging with you.

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And then he says, I got to go.

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And now I'm like, no way.

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I don't want you to go wherever you go.

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I'm going to come with you.

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And then he goes, that's why he says, you can't come where I'm going because they

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knew they would want to come.

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And then he says, but it is better that I go because when I go, I will send Holy

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Spirit.

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And now I will be in you always in all of you all the time.

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It no longer will be a proximity thing where when I go up the mountain and I'm

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hanging with Papa up the mountain and you are having revival down there, we are

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separated.

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There will be no more separation ever.

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And I, you know, I'm bunny trailing right now, but I just think that's so amazing

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because what we think is inferior is the greatest thing.

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The union can't be separated.

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It can't be touched.

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And he's in you.

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He's in me.

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We are sons.

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Even women are sons.

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There is no gender in the spirit.

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You're a son.

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And so now by default, you carry his DNA.

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And so for 22 years before I encountered God, I was living as someone that I was

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never created to be.

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And when I encountered him, boom, it was like everything I was always supposed to

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be started to be released.

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And it just is so easy to be able to just receive.

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And so we come to this point now where in Romans 8, 29, it talks about Christ being

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formed in us, which I believe is the ultimate purpose of every one of us, every

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one of us.

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So I'm just going to grab that because I want to read it quickly.

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I hope this is okay.

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You guys all good.

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I just want to grab that.

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We're going, it's picking up.

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So we're going to Romans 8, 28.

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Everybody knows that where he makes all things work together for our good because

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we love him and we're called according to his purpose.

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He destined us from the beginning to share the likeness of his son.

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all of you are not going to be carrying a cross to go put on Golgotha to be

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So it's not saying you've got to copy His life. It is saying you are who He was, who He is.

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Right? And so we are destined from the beginning to share the likeness of His Son.

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man, Philip, how long must I cruise with you before you realize if you've seen me,

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you have seen the Father. And he's like, I am just like my dad, like father, like son.

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which means we were destined to be like the Father, like God, because they are one in the same.

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He is an expressed image of an invisible God. He is an earthly manifestation of God who is,

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I don't even know if you could relegate Him to just a spiritual reality.

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It's way bigger, deeper than anything we could try and describe Him as.

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But here we see in Romans 8, 29, you are called, right?

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which means to share in the likeness of our Father, of Jesus' Father, of God.

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because the goal is to be Jesus, because we were destined to be that.

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of walking in purpose, it must begin at this place,

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because you were always destined to share in the likeness of His Son,

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which is actually a representation of Him.

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how to walk like God the Father has called us to walk.

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And so I want to just quickly talk about the four R's, okay?

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So if you're in New Zealand, it would be the four R's.

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And if you're in India, it would be the four R's, right?

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Okay, but the four R's.

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And these are things that our gathering, our house church,

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we kind of walk through these four things.

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because if these things are happening in your life,

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and it's not some formula or something, it's just a guideline.

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If these things are happening in your life, there is usually good stuff going on, okay?

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So these four things you will see in Jesus' life, the four R's, like the letter R.

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The first thing is He was revealing.

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He revealed the Father, okay?

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He was relatable.

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He related to everybody.

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He was a normal human.

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He related.

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So these four R's, we're just going to quickly go into that.

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I'm going to quickly do this.

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It's not too long.

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So let's look at that first thing, reveal.

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Everywhere that Jesus went, His heart was to reveal the Father,

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was to reveal the Father's heart.

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And we already looked at that scripture in, I think it's John 14,

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where He says to Philip, if you've seen me, you've seen the Father.

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by watching how Jesus walked.

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where He says that He was anointed to do a whole bunch of stuff,

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to do a whole bunch of stuff.

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of binding up the brokenhearted and setting people free,

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preaching the good news to the poor.

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the revealing that He wants to do through your life in that.

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when Jesus comes and He talks in Matthew 25,

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that also talks about the revealing,

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which I believe is really,

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really important because we many times reduce revealing the Father to

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miracle signs and wonders.

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to do for this world and do for the people something that may sometimes

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require a miracle sign or a wonder.

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if I have torment in my life,

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The goal is the freedom that I now get to live in.

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in Pentecostalism is we get so hung up on,

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on the stuff and doing the stuff that we miss the heart and the actual goal.

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it's to bring her back into the life

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that we were always meant to have.

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okay, well, the demon there and we cast out the demon,

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that's the goal.

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It's the life you now get to live, that's the goal.

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and I have bad pain in my knees, bad pain in my body

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The goal is freedom from that pain.

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So now I can walk and move and sleep

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and that I can do what I was called to do

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and to get to that point, healing is needed.

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and get stuck on, yeah, this great thing's gonna happen

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and miss, no, the point is the heart

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of the father behind this.

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because it's long, but basically it's just talking

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about in the end, when he comes to separate the sheep

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and the goats and he talks about people in prison.

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He talks about giving your clothes

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to the ones that don't have any.

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and how that actually is going to really separate

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who knew and who didn't know.

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of the father more than just looking after a sign.

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you are missing the heart.

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because Jesus was such a heart man revealing

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that the father is so about the heart,

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the heart, the heart, the heart.

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that Jesus cast out every demon that he saw.

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the heart, which is more important.

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And he was so all about revealing the heart.

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is that revealing, everywhere you go, revealing.

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Even in our gathering, we're teaching people

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that that's the first thing you do is reveal.

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The goal is not to run after and try and force people

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to believe what you believe, it is to reveal.

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We've seen so many people come to God

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because the Bible says it clearly,

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the goodness of God leads people to repentance.

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And to see his goodness, he must be revealed.

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Another thing that Jesus revealed

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through the father's heart is the kingdom,

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these constant parables and reference

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to what the kingdom's like.

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The kingdom of God is like this precious thing

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where a man sold everything he had,

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all his possessions, just to get that pearl, right?

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and he's revealing the kingdom, the kingdom of kingdom.

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Another way that he revealed the heart

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through love and forgiveness is when he steps in,

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when they want to stone the adulterous woman,

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he steps in, right?

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And he's constantly revealing something deeper

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It's a heart of a father behind there.

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to make here is that you were called to reveal him.

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It just blows my mind.

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From when I was a kid, I didn't want,

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or I didn't know who God was.

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I didn't want God in my life

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because there was no relatability.

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it's about relationship, but they still don't relate.

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There was no relating.

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You know, you can make relationship a religious term

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and never really relate.

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because I didn't see any relatability.

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I started to see that Jesus actually was so relatable.

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He was relating with everybody.

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This was one of the major problems

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that religious people even had with Jesus

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was his ability to relate.

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He could sit in between a prostitute and a drunkard

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and remain holy and have a holy conversation

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and speak in a language that people could understand

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or those that he wanted to understand would understand,

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but he had a relatability.

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that religious people had is that he could just relate.

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but still never relate and still be fake.

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And this was one of Jesus's massive pet peeves, or massive issues, was the fakeness that you can find.

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because he was constantly referring to, on the outside you're like this, but on the inside, why be fake?

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he would treat them amazingly, because they're just being real, and now they could relate.

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One of the massive problems we have right now, I believe, in the body of Christ, is the inability to just relate.

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And so there is such a big divide.

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the divide is the inability to relate between the world and the body of Christ.

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And I'm not talking about trying to be relevant in a way that you compromise.

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I'm just talking about the ability to just relate.

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can come into impure, dark, unclean, dirty places and still be who he is.

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And in fact, because he's able to sit in that, start to transform everywhere he goes, start to transform the area.

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Can you relate to people?

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Can you relate like Jesus related?

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Like father, like son, like you.

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You are called to relate.

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I hope this is making sense for the couple of you that are here.

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I just got two more points, and then we're done.

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Next thing he did was reproduce.

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Reproduce.

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I remember when I just got saved, and discipleship I know now is such a,

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it's almost a bad word in some places because the idea, the concept of discipleship is shunned.

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It's so kind of, it's become a bit dirty because we've seen it done in unhealthy ways.

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He comes.

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He starts walking everything out after he's 30.

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And he goes into the wilderness, comes out, and he's now walking in it.

495
00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:22.000
And he finds these disciples, and he says to them, follow me.

496
00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:26.000
Which is, okay, I am now doing what I see the father do, which is make disciples.

497
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:27.000
So I'm going to make disciples.

498
00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:29.000
So he makes disciples.

499
00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:32.000
And then while he makes disciples, he even tells them.

500
00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:37.000
Like in Luke 5, there's a story where Peter encounters God and his goodness, encounters Jesus.

501
00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:40.000
And then he says to Jesus, depart from me.

502
00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:41.000
I'm a fearful man.

503
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:44.000
But then Jesus tells him to come, follow me.

504
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:48.000
And then he tells him, I will reproduce who I am in you.

505
00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:51.000
I will make you a fisher of men.

506
00:27:51.000 --> 00:27:55.000
And so he always knew he was called to reproduce.

507
00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:57.000
And you are called to reproduce.

508
00:27:57.000 --> 00:28:02.000
Many, many, many of us believers don't mature into full sonship.

509
00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:07.000
Don't mature into what we're called to because we don't reproduce.

510
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:14.000
We don't take the steps necessary to make disciples because discipleship is costly.

511
00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:18.000
And this is one of the main things you're called to is to make disciples.

512
00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:23.000
And so Jesus is reproducing, always empowering.

513
00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:26.000
So you see different times where he's releasing the power.

514
00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:27.000
I give you all authority.

515
00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:29.000
It's Luke 9, somewhere around there.

516
00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:32.000
I give you all authority to go and cast out demons.

517
00:28:32.000 --> 00:28:36.000
He's constantly reproducing what he's carrying in them.

518
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:40.000
Sometimes it was through power, through breathing on them, giving them the Holy Spirit.

519
00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:42.000
And then sometimes it's through little lessons.

520
00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:47.000
Like, oh, you try to cast out that demon and the boy that's convulsing.

521
00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:49.000
You know, when Jesus comes down from the Mount of Transfiguration,

522
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:52.000
there is a boy who's convulsing and there's a demon.

523
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:56.000
And these rest of the disciples were trying to cast it out and they couldn't.

524
00:28:56.000 --> 00:29:00.000
And so I love that Jesus is so very practical in one.

525
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:02.000
We're going to relate and reproduce.

526
00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:06.000
We're revealing, relating, reproducing all in one.

527
00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:07.000
All in one.

528
00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:08.000
All at the same time.

529
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:12.000
There is no level one and then level two and then level three.

530
00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:14.000
There's no four levels to Christianity.

531
00:29:14.000 --> 00:29:16.000
He's like, this is all one.

532
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:18.000
And so he comes down, he casts out the demon.

533
00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:23.000
Then when they're walking, the disciples ask, you know, like, hey, why didn't we do that?

534
00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:25.000
And then he's able to tell them.

535
00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:29.000
He's able to teach and reproduce in them.

536
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:31.000
And God has called you to reproduce.

537
00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:34.000
So the first thing, he's called you to reveal him.

538
00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:37.000
You can't reveal him if you don't know him.

539
00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:38.000
Right?

540
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:44.000
So so many people get stuck in this place because the prayer life now begins just about,

541
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:45.000
I need this.

542
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:46.000
I need that.

543
00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:47.000
I need this.

544
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:48.000
God, I'm struggling with this.

545
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:49.000
My family, this.

546
00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:50.000
My mom, that.

547
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:51.000
My wife, this.

548
00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:52.000
And that's the end.

549
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:53.000
Amen.

550
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:54.000
And there is no intimacy built.

551
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:56.000
So when you don't have intimacy, you don't know him, you can't reveal him.

552
00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:58.000
And that's the very first thing.

553
00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:00.000
God has called to reveal him.

554
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:01.720
because in that you know who you are.

555
00:30:01.720 --> 00:30:03.200
The second thing, relating.

556
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:04.720
Just like Jesus related to everybody,

557
00:30:04.720 --> 00:30:06.080
you're called to relate.

558
00:30:06.080 --> 00:30:09.920
I remember when I just got saved the first few years,

559
00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:12.520
it was quite interesting

560
00:30:12.520 --> 00:30:15.640
because I no longer was that guy anymore.

561
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:17.200
You know, drinking and partying

562
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:19.160
was something I looked forward to.

563
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:20.680
That was the life I wanted

564
00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:22.480
and I didn't desire that anymore,

565
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:24.640
but a lot of my friends still did.

566
00:30:24.640 --> 00:30:26.680
And now I was in this tough place of,

567
00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:28.120
okay, well, that's not my life anymore

568
00:30:28.120 --> 00:30:29.340
and I'm not going there with them,

569
00:30:29.340 --> 00:30:32.580
but can I just relate to them as a normal human?

570
00:30:32.580 --> 00:30:34.540
You know, I think one of the mistakes we've made

571
00:30:34.540 --> 00:30:36.500
is when somebody gets saved,

572
00:30:36.500 --> 00:30:38.660
we pull them into a church lifestyle

573
00:30:38.660 --> 00:30:41.340
or a churchy kind of life

574
00:30:41.340 --> 00:30:44.860
and they leave the area that they were in

575
00:30:44.860 --> 00:30:47.340
to come into this new place

576
00:30:47.340 --> 00:30:50.260
and the movement stops.

577
00:30:50.260 --> 00:30:51.660
I find it really interesting

578
00:30:51.660 --> 00:30:54.460
that Jesus casts out these legions of demons

579
00:30:54.460 --> 00:30:55.700
out of this guy.

580
00:30:55.700 --> 00:30:56.700
I think it's Mark 4.

581
00:30:56.700 --> 00:30:58.860
He casts out legions of demons out of this guy

582
00:30:59.380 --> 00:31:00.860
and then the guy is so keen,

583
00:31:00.860 --> 00:31:03.780
like, come on, I'm coming with you.

584
00:31:03.780 --> 00:31:05.900
Let's go, Jesus, all the way.

585
00:31:05.900 --> 00:31:08.140
You know, today we're looking for people like that.

586
00:31:08.140 --> 00:31:10.260
Church leaders are looking for people like that.

587
00:31:10.260 --> 00:31:12.700
But Jesus says to them, no, you don't come.

588
00:31:12.700 --> 00:31:15.020
You just go and tell people what happened.

589
00:31:16.140 --> 00:31:16.980
I trust you.

590
00:31:16.980 --> 00:31:19.380
You represent me, represent my father.

591
00:31:19.380 --> 00:31:21.660
Just go tell people what happened.

592
00:31:21.660 --> 00:31:26.660
You know, and I just think that that's just amazing, amazing.

593
00:31:29.580 --> 00:31:31.900
Hey, Karen, thank you.

594
00:31:31.900 --> 00:31:33.260
Thank you.

595
00:31:33.260 --> 00:31:34.980
Blessings to you too.

596
00:31:34.980 --> 00:31:36.340
So we're relating.

597
00:31:36.340 --> 00:31:37.660
Now we're reproducing

598
00:31:37.660 --> 00:31:40.260
and this is something that began really early on

599
00:31:40.260 --> 00:31:41.820
because then I was like, well, God,

600
00:31:41.820 --> 00:31:43.700
I don't think I can make disciples.

601
00:31:43.700 --> 00:31:45.660
I'm still so new.

602
00:31:45.660 --> 00:31:48.700
And I started to understand that the ability

603
00:31:48.700 --> 00:31:51.100
to make disciples or the call to make disciples

604
00:31:51.100 --> 00:31:52.740
was not something special.

605
00:31:52.740 --> 00:31:55.500
It was not something that was meant to make us special.

606
00:31:55.500 --> 00:31:58.500
It is so simple because I'm following God.

607
00:31:59.180 --> 00:32:00.140
I'm walking the ways of Jesus.

608
00:32:00.140 --> 00:32:02.060
And there are some men and women in my life

609
00:32:02.060 --> 00:32:05.660
that are walking in that way and seem to carry that fruit,

610
00:32:05.660 --> 00:32:07.220
seem to remind me of my father.

611
00:32:07.220 --> 00:32:09.420
So I follow some of them, right?

612
00:32:09.420 --> 00:32:10.260
I'm walking with them.

613
00:32:10.260 --> 00:32:12.580
Just like Paul said, imitate me as I imitate Christ.

614
00:32:12.580 --> 00:32:16.460
I'm seeing some Christ-like people who I'm imitating.

615
00:32:16.460 --> 00:32:18.940
And then it's just, oh, you just lead people

616
00:32:18.940 --> 00:32:20.660
through what you've been through.

617
00:32:20.660 --> 00:32:23.220
And I started to realize discipleship was not,

618
00:32:23.220 --> 00:32:25.660
Joseph, you gotta be some great super apostle

619
00:32:25.660 --> 00:32:27.060
and then you disciple.

620
00:32:27.100 --> 00:32:28.300
Discipleship was not, oh, well,

621
00:32:28.300 --> 00:32:31.900
when you get to this level of manifestation,

622
00:32:31.900 --> 00:32:32.740
then you disciple.

623
00:32:32.740 --> 00:32:35.060
No, it was just, you just teach people what you know

624
00:32:35.060 --> 00:32:37.100
and you are still learning from someone else

625
00:32:37.100 --> 00:32:38.860
and you are passing on things that you learn

626
00:32:38.860 --> 00:32:40.580
while you live your life.

627
00:32:40.580 --> 00:32:43.700
And so the importance, the call to discipleship is massive

628
00:32:43.700 --> 00:32:46.580
because so many people disqualify themselves

629
00:32:46.580 --> 00:32:48.660
from stepping into discipleship

630
00:32:48.660 --> 00:32:50.660
because they feel they don't know enough.

631
00:32:50.660 --> 00:32:51.940
And I wanna set you free from that

632
00:32:51.940 --> 00:32:54.020
because discipleship doesn't come from knowledge.

633
00:32:54.020 --> 00:32:55.780
It comes from the heart.

634
00:32:55.780 --> 00:32:57.420
And what is the heart?

635
00:32:57.420 --> 00:32:59.980
And that's where, if you understand the first thing I say,

636
00:32:59.980 --> 00:33:03.540
which is revealing, you can only reveal what you know.

637
00:33:03.540 --> 00:33:05.500
And so you end up knowing his heart.

638
00:33:05.500 --> 00:33:07.980
So then you reveal his heart

639
00:33:07.980 --> 00:33:11.380
and you're able to relate to people so they see his heart.

640
00:33:11.380 --> 00:33:14.300
And before you know it, you reproduce in them what's in you

641
00:33:14.300 --> 00:33:16.220
because you did the first two things.

642
00:33:16.220 --> 00:33:19.340
But a lot of times we try and skip these first two things.

643
00:33:19.340 --> 00:33:22.780
You will never be able to reproduce the father

644
00:33:22.780 --> 00:33:25.340
if it's not happening in this way.

645
00:33:26.540 --> 00:33:30.380
And so I started to realize, oh, it's simple.

646
00:33:30.380 --> 00:33:31.340
It's simple.

647
00:33:31.340 --> 00:33:33.740
And so when I learned how to hear from God

648
00:33:33.740 --> 00:33:35.940
and I met some people who didn't know how to do that,

649
00:33:35.940 --> 00:33:37.500
I would just help them.

650
00:33:37.500 --> 00:33:39.300
And I started to see it's more the heart

651
00:33:39.300 --> 00:33:42.300
because Matthew 5, the Beatitudes

652
00:33:42.300 --> 00:33:44.500
is really what we're all called to there.

653
00:33:44.500 --> 00:33:46.340
And it's like, there are some times where,

654
00:33:46.340 --> 00:33:48.300
hey, you're down, I'll be down with you.

655
00:33:48.300 --> 00:33:50.340
I'll mourn with you, man.

656
00:33:50.340 --> 00:33:51.460
I'm called to mourn with you.

657
00:33:51.460 --> 00:33:52.380
I feel your pain.

658
00:33:52.380 --> 00:33:53.420
You're going through something.

659
00:33:53.420 --> 00:33:55.060
I'll just be with you.

660
00:33:55.100 --> 00:33:56.500
I'll just be with you.

661
00:33:56.500 --> 00:33:57.620
Okay, you're happy.

662
00:33:57.620 --> 00:33:59.460
I'm happy with you, right?

663
00:33:59.460 --> 00:34:00.900
Or do you get what I'm saying?

664
00:34:00.900 --> 00:34:03.860
It's like, we've complicated it too much

665
00:34:03.860 --> 00:34:07.340
to make it something to attain that we've missed.

666
00:34:07.340 --> 00:34:10.380
We've missed the simplicity of the gospel.

667
00:34:10.380 --> 00:34:12.380
Many times, and I'm still in this battle

668
00:34:12.380 --> 00:34:15.900
of why do we create a different way of reaching the world

669
00:34:15.900 --> 00:34:18.940
when Jesus came and modeled it and he simplified it

670
00:34:18.940 --> 00:34:20.860
and he just grabbed 12 guys.

671
00:34:20.860 --> 00:34:22.340
I mean, he was so relatable.

672
00:34:22.340 --> 00:34:24.699
They say to him, when are we gonna meet you next?

673
00:34:25.580 --> 00:34:27.900
It's like, well, you're this great rabbi.

674
00:34:27.900 --> 00:34:29.780
You know, like, oh, you're a great healing evangelist.

675
00:34:29.780 --> 00:34:31.139
You're a great, I wonder when,

676
00:34:31.139 --> 00:34:32.219
how can I get an appointment?

677
00:34:32.219 --> 00:34:33.780
And Jesus is like, what do you mean?

678
00:34:33.780 --> 00:34:35.500
Come to my house.

679
00:34:35.500 --> 00:34:37.260
Live with me.

680
00:34:37.260 --> 00:34:38.820
I will feed you.

681
00:34:38.820 --> 00:34:41.219
You will see me 24 seven.

682
00:34:41.219 --> 00:34:43.380
I have nothing to hide from you.

683
00:34:43.380 --> 00:34:46.340
We are gonna get in real relationship.

684
00:34:46.340 --> 00:34:50.940
We're gonna do life together, right?

685
00:34:50.940 --> 00:34:53.739
And we complicate the simplicity

686
00:34:53.739 --> 00:34:56.739
of how God already gave us the strategy

687
00:34:56.739 --> 00:34:59.260
for this world to become what he called it to be.

688
00:34:59.260 --> 00:35:00.260
And so discipleship.

689
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.080
It's a massive thing.

690
00:35:02.080 --> 00:35:06.160
I shared this on my profile, but 10 years ago,

691
00:35:06.160 --> 00:35:09.480
the Lord said to me, if you're not humble enough to follow,

692
00:35:09.480 --> 00:35:11.760
you're not wise enough to lead.

693
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:13.480
Because there was a time where I was following some people

694
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:15.200
and I could see some of the issues

695
00:35:15.200 --> 00:35:16.800
and I could see some of the things that I'm like,

696
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:18.280
well, you know, that person's like this

697
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:20.160
and why should I follow?

698
00:35:20.160 --> 00:35:22.400
And you know, I'm going through this maturing journey

699
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:24.600
and God was like, well, if you're not humble enough

700
00:35:24.600 --> 00:35:25.920
to follow, you're not wise enough to lead.

701
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:28.600
And I started to understand the heart posture,

702
00:35:29.600 --> 00:35:31.680
and if you look at all of this,

703
00:35:31.680 --> 00:35:34.160
the heart posture behind it is saying,

704
00:35:34.160 --> 00:35:39.160
every person on this earth is carrying a unique expression

705
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:43.600
of the Father that needs to be revealed.

706
00:35:43.600 --> 00:35:46.100
And when I choose to follow people and I'm walking,

707
00:35:46.100 --> 00:35:47.600
people that can speak into my life,

708
00:35:47.600 --> 00:35:50.400
I am choosing to allow that expression

709
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:51.600
to show itself to me.

710
00:35:51.600 --> 00:35:53.160
It's an expression of the Father.

711
00:35:53.160 --> 00:35:57.240
And then in turn, I get to be an expression of Him

712
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.720
to someone else, who then is also an expression of God

713
00:36:00.720 --> 00:36:03.040
to someone else and to me.

714
00:36:03.040 --> 00:36:06.120
And I just love that He made it so simple, discipleship.

715
00:36:06.120 --> 00:36:09.240
Simple, not easy, but simple.

716
00:36:09.240 --> 00:36:10.920
And so when I was leading people to the Lord,

717
00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:13.160
we'd hang out, they'd come to my house,

718
00:36:13.160 --> 00:36:15.680
they'd meet my family, all my birthday parties,

719
00:36:15.680 --> 00:36:19.360
I'd invite them into, we'd have a feed, just any excuse.

720
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:20.800
We're just gonna do life.

721
00:36:20.800 --> 00:36:22.160
I mean, there are some people in my life now,

722
00:36:22.160 --> 00:36:24.740
we've walked 10 years, nine years, eight years.

723
00:36:24.740 --> 00:36:26.960
I've said to them, I'm gonna be there when you get married,

724
00:36:27.680 --> 00:36:29.120
I'm gonna be there when you have your third kid.

725
00:36:29.120 --> 00:36:31.440
One day we might be old and gray sitting somewhere

726
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:34.400
talking about, remember in 30 years ago,

727
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:36.400
40 years ago, 50 years ago,

728
00:36:36.400 --> 00:36:38.560
I want that kind of relationship.

729
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:43.000
I want, we need that kind of connection.

730
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:45.560
You know, another thing about discipleship

731
00:36:45.560 --> 00:36:48.280
is people don't care about how much you know

732
00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:50.920
till they know how much you care, right?

733
00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:53.800
We know the saying, but that's the gospel.

734
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:56.680
What does it mean when it says Jesus will leave the 99,

735
00:36:57.420 --> 00:37:00.120
the shepherd leaves the 99 to get the one?

736
00:37:00.120 --> 00:37:02.600
It's like, no, you will know how much I care

737
00:37:02.600 --> 00:37:05.720
and then you will care how much I know.

738
00:37:05.720 --> 00:37:07.880
You see, Jesus is preaching to all these people

739
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.240
and he's like, hey, Peter, let me borrow your boat

740
00:37:10.240 --> 00:37:14.600
in Luke 5, borrows the boat, preaches this message, right?

741
00:37:14.600 --> 00:37:16.440
And then he says to Peter, hey,

742
00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:19.100
go put your nets on the side, you're gonna, you know,

743
00:37:19.100 --> 00:37:20.160
it'll be good.

744
00:37:20.160 --> 00:37:23.340
Peter does it, catches this crazy boatload,

745
00:37:23.340 --> 00:37:27.000
and it's like, oh my gosh, Jesus cares about me?

746
00:37:28.820 --> 00:37:32.140
He suddenly sees and he knows how much he cares

747
00:37:32.140 --> 00:37:35.580
and now he starts to care, do you understand?

748
00:37:35.580 --> 00:37:38.140
Now Peter starts to care about what Jesus knows.

749
00:37:39.020 --> 00:37:40.500
And so many times in the gospel,

750
00:37:40.500 --> 00:37:42.180
we're like, oh, I'm such a teacher and I'm this

751
00:37:42.180 --> 00:37:43.540
and I'm that, look at how much I know,

752
00:37:43.540 --> 00:37:46.660
look at what I can teach you, look at my revelation, right?

753
00:37:46.660 --> 00:37:51.020
And we've done that and we've missed the care first.

754
00:37:51.020 --> 00:37:52.300
And there'll be some people now,

755
00:37:52.300 --> 00:37:54.380
like one of my closest friends,

756
00:37:54.380 --> 00:37:56.020
and I guess I could call him a disciple,

757
00:37:56.020 --> 00:37:59.840
I could call him like a son, but we're boys, you know?

758
00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:04.580
This relationship has been forged and built over 10 years,

759
00:38:04.580 --> 00:38:07.920
over 10 years, my Nigerian brother.

760
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:12.020
But when we first met and I lived in South Auckland,

761
00:38:12.020 --> 00:38:14.940
he lived in West Auckland and our church was in North.

762
00:38:14.940 --> 00:38:16.540
And when we first, when I just got saved

763
00:38:16.540 --> 00:38:19.460
and I would walk with him, I would pick him up from here,

764
00:38:19.460 --> 00:38:22.380
take him to the church, drop him back and come back home

765
00:38:22.380 --> 00:38:25.180
because I knew that's what Papa was getting me to do.

766
00:38:25.180 --> 00:38:27.140
And that's what I would do multiple times

767
00:38:27.140 --> 00:38:29.220
and I did that for ages.

768
00:38:29.220 --> 00:38:32.460
And then one day he just stopped returning my messages.

769
00:38:32.460 --> 00:38:33.800
Then he didn't answer my calls

770
00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:36.180
and I didn't see him for months.

771
00:38:36.180 --> 00:38:39.220
And so I'm saying this to you to show you something

772
00:38:39.220 --> 00:38:42.540
about how important it is that people know you care.

773
00:38:42.540 --> 00:38:44.740
Every person that I am walking with today,

774
00:38:44.740 --> 00:38:46.980
even in our house church, and there's about 30 now,

775
00:38:47.020 --> 00:38:48.220
there's about 30 people.

776
00:38:48.220 --> 00:38:51.460
They all needed to know, man, this guy cares.

777
00:38:51.460 --> 00:38:52.780
Now I have people around me

778
00:38:52.780 --> 00:38:55.340
that I know will take a bullet for me.

779
00:38:55.340 --> 00:38:56.900
They will take a bullet for me.

780
00:38:56.900 --> 00:39:01.080
There are some who will get hurt for me to protect me, right?

781
00:39:01.080 --> 00:39:02.540
But that would have never happened

782
00:39:02.540 --> 00:39:05.000
if they didn't know how much I cared.

783
00:39:05.900 --> 00:39:08.020
And we've been stuck in this place of revealing

784
00:39:08.020 --> 00:39:11.180
and sharing knowledge without first the heart.

785
00:39:11.180 --> 00:39:12.280
It's the other way around.

786
00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:15.080
And so to continue the story,

787
00:39:15.080 --> 00:39:17.120
one day I'm just driving in West Auckland

788
00:39:17.120 --> 00:39:19.120
and I'm at traffic lights and I look to my left

789
00:39:19.120 --> 00:39:21.200
because there's a car there that with loud music,

790
00:39:21.200 --> 00:39:23.360
boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

791
00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:25.800
And I looked to the left and it's this guy.

792
00:39:25.800 --> 00:39:27.680
It's my friend and he's sitting there

793
00:39:27.680 --> 00:39:29.900
and he's with his glasses on with his friend

794
00:39:29.900 --> 00:39:31.040
and they're just pumping the music

795
00:39:31.040 --> 00:39:32.840
and he looks over, sees me,

796
00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:34.760
and he's like, oh, takes his glasses off,

797
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:37.280
puts the music down and he's like, oh, hey bro.

798
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:39.800
And he hadn't been answering my calls or messages at all.

799
00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:40.960
And I can guarantee you,

800
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:44.420
he expected me to be different with him.

801
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:48.800
But we just carried on like nothing happened.

802
00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:50.560
And I kept hanging out, still picked them up,

803
00:39:50.560 --> 00:39:53.040
still dropped them and somewhere along the line,

804
00:39:53.040 --> 00:39:57.800
it just, his walk with God just exploded.

805
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:00.120
People don't care about.

806
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.680
how much you know till they know how much you care.

807
00:40:02.680 --> 00:40:04.340
I have multiple stories like this.

808
00:40:04.340 --> 00:40:06.080
In fact, I am telling you right now,

809
00:40:06.080 --> 00:40:08.160
if you are going to make disciples,

810
00:40:08.160 --> 00:40:10.200
which you need to, because you're called to that,

811
00:40:10.200 --> 00:40:11.600
because you're called to be like Jesus,

812
00:40:11.600 --> 00:40:14.440
you are going to have to care

813
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:16.980
and have a heart to lay your life down.

814
00:40:17.880 --> 00:40:19.720
You know, many times people talk about submission.

815
00:40:19.720 --> 00:40:21.240
People talk about how leaders,

816
00:40:21.240 --> 00:40:23.800
they should be honored.

817
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:27.320
But Jesus modeled how you get proper submission

818
00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:29.720
is first you lay yourself down.

819
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:33.240
You know, Jesus first died on the cross,

820
00:40:33.240 --> 00:40:35.600
laid his life down before he then said,

821
00:40:35.600 --> 00:40:38.680
Joseph, he did it.

822
00:40:38.680 --> 00:40:39.840
Before the foundation of the world,

823
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:43.440
he laid himself down and now submission's easy for me.

824
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:45.460
Because I'm not submitting to someone that's going,

825
00:40:45.460 --> 00:40:46.300
rah, rah, rah.

826
00:40:46.300 --> 00:40:50.380
I'm submitting to someone that washes my feet.

827
00:40:50.380 --> 00:40:52.620
I'm submitting to someone that serves me,

828
00:40:52.620 --> 00:40:55.120
the God of the universe wants to serve me.

829
00:40:55.120 --> 00:40:56.040
What kind of heart is that?

830
00:40:56.040 --> 00:40:58.680
I'm submitting someone that he decides to take my junk,

831
00:40:58.680 --> 00:41:02.480
die on the cross as me, set me free.

832
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:05.560
I'm now not submitting to,

833
00:41:05.560 --> 00:41:08.200
I'm submitting to a better deal.

834
00:41:08.200 --> 00:41:10.360
I love in Ephesians where he says,

835
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:13.480
you know, wives submit to your husbands,

836
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:15.440
but then he says, husbands lay your life down,

837
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:18.640
do to them, be to them who I am to the church,

838
00:41:18.640 --> 00:41:20.560
like who Jesus is to the church.

839
00:41:20.560 --> 00:41:23.400
And Jesus died for the church.

840
00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:25.240
And so he's given us a secret.

841
00:41:25.240 --> 00:41:28.040
If you want to make disciples, you're gonna have to die.

842
00:41:28.040 --> 00:41:29.280
You're gonna have to die.

843
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:30.120
You're gonna have to die.

844
00:41:30.120 --> 00:41:33.120
Sometimes they're gonna call you and you're on a date,

845
00:41:33.120 --> 00:41:34.360
but they need you.

846
00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:36.080
Sometimes they're gonna call you a fast asleep,

847
00:41:36.080 --> 00:41:37.120
but they need you.

848
00:41:37.120 --> 00:41:39.200
Sometimes they're just gonna need you to feed them

849
00:41:39.200 --> 00:41:40.320
for a season.

850
00:41:40.320 --> 00:41:43.600
And will you?

851
00:41:43.600 --> 00:41:44.480
Will you?

852
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:49.120
This is the legitimacy of sonship

853
00:41:49.120 --> 00:41:51.780
is evident in my willingness to be obedient.

854
00:41:52.740 --> 00:41:57.740
The legitimacy of my sonship is evident in the ability

855
00:41:57.820 --> 00:42:01.060
or in my willingness to be obedient.

856
00:42:01.060 --> 00:42:02.980
And it blows my mind that there are gonna be people

857
00:42:02.980 --> 00:42:05.060
that we see right now that are manifesting,

858
00:42:05.060 --> 00:42:08.020
seeing demons, cause I do all these great, great things

859
00:42:08.020 --> 00:42:11.300
that might end up in the Matthew seven lane

860
00:42:11.300 --> 00:42:12.940
where Jesus is like, get away from me.

861
00:42:12.940 --> 00:42:14.500
I never knew you.

862
00:42:14.500 --> 00:42:18.180
Step one, reveal the beginning, reveal.

863
00:42:18.180 --> 00:42:19.700
Well, I never knew you, man.

864
00:42:19.700 --> 00:42:21.100
You couldn't reveal my heart.

865
00:42:21.140 --> 00:42:23.060
Sure, you did the stuff.

866
00:42:23.060 --> 00:42:27.380
You did all the stuff, bro, but you didn't know my heart.

867
00:42:27.380 --> 00:42:28.220
It was great.

868
00:42:28.220 --> 00:42:29.140
The world knew you.

869
00:42:29.140 --> 00:42:31.340
Many people came to me through you,

870
00:42:31.340 --> 00:42:35.140
but then they came to me and then they revealed.

871
00:42:35.140 --> 00:42:38.460
I revealed who I am to them and they revealed me to others,

872
00:42:38.460 --> 00:42:40.980
but you were the door they came through,

873
00:42:40.980 --> 00:42:42.660
but you never came there.

874
00:42:44.060 --> 00:42:45.940
Matthew seven, the scariest chapter.

875
00:42:45.940 --> 00:42:47.380
It's like, man, you know?

876
00:42:47.380 --> 00:42:50.940
Anyway, I hope you're getting what I'm saying.

877
00:42:51.780 --> 00:42:53.580
So he revealed, related, reproduced,

878
00:42:53.580 --> 00:42:56.060
and the last thing, he released.

879
00:42:56.060 --> 00:42:57.580
He released.

880
00:42:57.580 --> 00:43:00.980
And these are things we don't see in church, right?

881
00:43:00.980 --> 00:43:03.700
There's been heaps of church splits,

882
00:43:03.700 --> 00:43:04.900
and I know it's a touchy subject,

883
00:43:04.900 --> 00:43:05.860
but I'm telling you right now,

884
00:43:05.860 --> 00:43:07.100
and I've said this to our gathering,

885
00:43:07.100 --> 00:43:09.180
if any person in my house church,

886
00:43:09.180 --> 00:43:11.500
in the house church that I'm a part of,

887
00:43:11.500 --> 00:43:14.580
wants to leave and start their own work,

888
00:43:14.580 --> 00:43:19.580
even if I don't feel, right, if in my opinion,

889
00:43:19.940 --> 00:43:21.260
I'm like, I don't know about that,

890
00:43:21.260 --> 00:43:24.020
I am going to send them.

891
00:43:24.020 --> 00:43:25.460
I am going to release them.

892
00:43:25.460 --> 00:43:27.820
I am going to bless them, maybe financially,

893
00:43:27.820 --> 00:43:28.660
and in different ways.

894
00:43:28.660 --> 00:43:31.820
I have to, because that is the only way

895
00:43:31.820 --> 00:43:35.340
that my heart can be revealed.

896
00:43:35.340 --> 00:43:37.100
I believe there'd be so many church splits

897
00:43:37.100 --> 00:43:38.060
that didn't need to happen

898
00:43:38.060 --> 00:43:41.140
if the first thing of revealing the Father was happening,

899
00:43:41.140 --> 00:43:42.900
and then relating was happening,

900
00:43:42.900 --> 00:43:45.140
where actual relationships were formed.

901
00:43:45.140 --> 00:43:46.340
I've been part of churches

902
00:43:46.340 --> 00:43:47.900
where the leadership structure,

903
00:43:47.900 --> 00:43:49.700
that there was no relationship.

904
00:43:49.700 --> 00:43:53.860
It was all based on doing the God stuff.

905
00:43:53.860 --> 00:43:56.980
There was no actual heart-to-heart connection.

906
00:43:56.980 --> 00:43:59.820
There was no actual in-depth relationship.

907
00:43:59.820 --> 00:44:02.220
You know, relationships are scary.

908
00:44:02.220 --> 00:44:05.180
They're scary, because you've got to be vulnerable,

909
00:44:05.180 --> 00:44:08.940
and if I am going to be who God is, and God is love,

910
00:44:08.940 --> 00:44:10.180
then I have to manifest love.

911
00:44:10.180 --> 00:44:13.740
If I'm going to manifest love, I am taking a risk.

912
00:44:13.740 --> 00:44:15.660
I am taking a big risk.

913
00:44:15.660 --> 00:44:17.380
I am taking a scary risk,

914
00:44:17.380 --> 00:44:21.380
because now I am allowing myself to be hurt.

915
00:44:21.380 --> 00:44:25.180
There is no preservation in love, self-preservation,

916
00:44:25.180 --> 00:44:27.420
and so this is one of the things we don't see,

917
00:44:27.420 --> 00:44:29.020
and so the releasing,

918
00:44:29.020 --> 00:44:31.580
we are called to do these four things,

919
00:44:31.580 --> 00:44:34.980
and then release people into their destiny.

920
00:44:34.980 --> 00:44:37.060
I love the story I heard about Mike Bickle.

921
00:44:37.060 --> 00:44:39.900
You guys probably know Mike Bickle from IHOP,

922
00:44:39.900 --> 00:44:43.500
and they've started the International House of Prayer,

923
00:44:43.500 --> 00:44:45.900
the 24-7 prayer movement, worship movement,

924
00:44:45.900 --> 00:44:48.220
and they had great worship leaders come through there,

925
00:44:48.220 --> 00:44:50.740
and great, great preachers come through there,

926
00:44:50.740 --> 00:44:55.500
and I love how, and I know a friend of mine

927
00:44:55.500 --> 00:44:58.700
was there for years, and so he knows Mike personally,

928
00:44:58.700 --> 00:45:00.020
and he shared.

929
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:05.000
about how Mike's heart is just that people become what God's calling them to be.

930
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:10.000
And he would tell other church leaders that how awesome his worship team people are,

931
00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:15.000
and that if they feel God's calling these people to what this new church is doing,

932
00:45:15.000 --> 00:45:17.000
that they should go.

933
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:23.000
And that blows my mind, just this heart to release, you know, to release.

934
00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:25.000
And Jesus released, and He's released us.

935
00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:27.000
Go and make disciples. He's released.

936
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:32.000
Released us to what? To go and reveal, and relate, and reproduce, and then release in turn,

937
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:36.000
and go in again, reveal, relate, reproduce, release.

938
00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:41.000
And so I wanted to share this with you because you are called to be like your Father,

939
00:45:41.000 --> 00:45:43.000
like Father, like Son.

940
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:48.000
And so when you're being like Jesus, Romans 8, 29, you're being like the Father.

941
00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:52.000
You're being who you were always destined to be.

942
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:56.000
And I want to clarify again, it's not that you're copying Jesus' life,

943
00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:59.000
but you are who He was and who He is.

944
00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:02.000
It's the heart, not the behavior.

945
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:06.000
It's the heart, not the action.

946
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:08.000
So I hope that made sense.

947
00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:12.000
I hope that spoke to some of you guys, the four Rs.

948
00:46:12.000 --> 00:46:15.000
And hi, Nida. I don't know if you're still here, but hi.

949
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:19.000
It is so simple, man. Kylie, it is so simple.

950
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:21.000
Kyla, it is so simple.

951
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:26.000
And I just, yeah, the gospel is a verb.

952
00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:28.000
It's a verb. It is love manifested.

953
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:32.000
Jesus is love manifested in whatever ability you have.

954
00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:35.000
You know, many times I've caught myself, even in this group,

955
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:38.000
there are people in this group that I'm like, man, you are great people.

956
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:43.000
I mean, I don't know if Trevor is still on here, but Trevor is a great man.

957
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.000
And I've heard great things about this man.

958
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:47.000
And I heard great things about Trevor Yaxley.

959
00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:49.000
I've heard great things about him even yesterday again.

960
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:51.000
And I'm like, man, I want to meet this man.

961
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:54.000
And there are people in this group that are doing amazing things.

962
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:58.000
And many times, many times I catch myself being like, oh, man,

963
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:00.000
what do I have to give?

964
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:02.000
What am I going to give?

965
00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:04.000
Look at these amazing people. What am I going to give?

966
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:07.000
I'm Joseph. I'm a little Indian boy.

967
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:10.000
And then starting to realize, no, no, I'm a son.

968
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:14.000
I'm a son. I carry a unique expression.

969
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:17.000
A unique expression of the father that is needed.

970
00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:20.000
I'm part of the body. And so are you.

971
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:22.000
Then you start to realize that God has called you.

972
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:25.000
Whatever capacity, whatever expression, whatever that looks like,

973
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:28.000
you have a place. You have a place.

974
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:30.000
You have a place, okay?

975
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:31.000
And it's time for you to walk in that.

976
00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:34.000
The gospel is a verb. It's an action word.

977
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:35.000
You've got to move.

978
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:38.000
When you don't move, you cut your learning short.

979
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:40.000
I'm going to end with this example.

980
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:46.000
Okay, Nita, the four R's are reveal, relate, reproduce, and release.

981
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:47.000
You can re-watch this. I explain them all.

982
00:47:47.000 --> 00:47:50.000
Reveal, relate, reproduce, and release.

983
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:53.000
These are kind of the four main things that our gathering,

984
00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:55.000
our house church is based on.

985
00:47:55.000 --> 00:47:58.000
And I believe that every person, when they understand this,

986
00:47:58.000 --> 00:48:01.000
walk in that, it's going to transform this place.

987
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:03.000
It's going to transform this place.

988
00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:11.000
So, oh, man, I was going to tell you a story, and now I forgot.

989
00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:14.000
I don't know if it's going to come back, but there you go.

990
00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:16.000
So that's what I wanted to share.

991
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:20.000
Oh, the comparison thing, to not compare, to walk in what you carry,

992
00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:23.000
because what you carry is really, really important.

993
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:33.000
And, yeah, I have lost the story, but at least I answered your question.

994
00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:36.000
So hopefully you guys got something from this,

995
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:38.000
and you get something from the replay.

996
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:42.000
And I'm just enjoying the fact that I get to be like my dad,

997
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:44.000
and you get to be like your dad.

998
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:46.000
So, Father, I thank you.

999
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:51.000
I thank you for this beautiful gift, the gift of you,

1000
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:57.000
the gift of your spirit, the gift of the reality that we are you.

1001
00:48:57.000 --> 00:48:59.000
We are you on the earth.

1002
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:01.000
We are you on the earth.

1003
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:05.000
We are you manifested on the earth.

1004
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:09.000
I pray that we will be a people that start to understand that,

1005
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:15.000
that just receive it by grace, by grace, grace and by faith.

1006
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:17.000
We will just receive it.

1007
00:49:17.000 --> 00:49:19.000
Just receive it.

1008
00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:20.000
We will receive it.

1009
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:22.000
We will start to walk in things that we've not earned,

1010
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:25.000
that we don't deserve, and we know that already.

1011
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:27.000
But we will just receive it and walk into God,

1012
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:31.000
not stuff that we try and earn and have an ability to boast in,

1013
00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:37.000
but just a simple reception of what you say is what it is.

1014
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:40.000
Thank you, Jesus.

1015
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:41.000
We love you, Father.

1016
00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:42.000
We love you, Jesus.

1017
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:46.000
We love you, Holy Spirit, the great Empowerer.

1018
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:48.000
The great Empowerer.

1019
00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:49.000
We love you.

1020
00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:50.000
I thank you.

1021
00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:52.000
And I just want to speak a blessing over every person that listens to this,

1022
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:55.000
that they will start to reveal what they already have,

1023
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:58.000
what they already know about you,

1024
00:49:58.000 --> 00:49:59.000
what they already know about who they are,

1025
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:02.920
Reeling will begin and the relating will increase.

1026
00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:05.640
They'll start to relate with people from all kinds of walks,

1027
00:50:05.640 --> 00:50:07.280
from all different places.

1028
00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:08.800
They'll understand what Paul meant when he said,

1029
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:10.320
I'm all things to all people.

1030
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:12.680
God, they'll just start to relate

1031
00:50:12.680 --> 00:50:15.920
in the simplicity of love that they'll relate

1032
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:18.600
and then they'll reproduce.

1033
00:50:18.600 --> 00:50:20.740
They'll reproduce you in their life

1034
00:50:20.740 --> 00:50:23.300
and reproduce who they are in someone else's life.

1035
00:50:23.300 --> 00:50:25.280
They'll start to reproduce, God,

1036
00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:27.440
other people that carry you, Father,

1037
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:31.520
that they'll reproduce, that they'll reproduce, Lord,

1038
00:50:31.520 --> 00:50:33.520
and then that they will release these people

1039
00:50:33.520 --> 00:50:36.160
into their destiny, whatever that looks like,

1040
00:50:36.160 --> 00:50:38.600
that we won't hold onto people like as if we own them,

1041
00:50:38.600 --> 00:50:42.680
but we just release them into their God-given destiny.

1042
00:50:42.680 --> 00:50:45.120
Thank you, Lord, for the great season that we're in.

1043
00:50:45.120 --> 00:50:47.200
Thank you that we were born for such a time as this,

1044
00:50:47.200 --> 00:50:50.040
that we are living in the most exciting times

1045
00:50:50.040 --> 00:50:51.320
and I pray that as a people,

1046
00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:54.540
we will grab hold of everything you have for us,

1047
00:50:54.540 --> 00:50:56.000
the things that the people of old,

1048
00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:58.960
the prophets of old longed for, looked forward to,

1049
00:50:58.960 --> 00:51:00.440
that we get to walk in that, God.

1050
00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:02.400
What an honor, what a privilege.

1051
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:04.560
I pray that we will walk in this thing

1052
00:51:04.560 --> 00:51:09.560
unashamedly, unapologetically, in Jesus' mighty name, amen.

1053
00:51:11.360 --> 00:51:13.440
I bless you, bless you, Karen, bless you, Nita,

1054
00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:16.100
bless you, Kylie, bless you, whoever else is here.

1055
00:51:16.100 --> 00:51:18.020
Love you guys, you guys are awesome.

1056
00:51:18.020 --> 00:51:18.920
Have a great day.

1057
00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:21.400
I think there's two more sessions coming up later today

1058
00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:23.360
and tomorrow with Pastor Norm.

1059
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:24.720
It's gonna be epic.

1060
00:51:24.720 --> 00:51:26.440
Until next time, love you.

1061
00:51:26.440 --> 00:51:27.600
Take care also.

1062
00:51:27.600 --> 00:51:29.640
There's an announcement coming from,

1063
00:51:29.640 --> 00:51:30.880
Benji's gonna share some things

1064
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:33.320
about what we're doing next and how you can jump in

1065
00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:34.960
and start to actually manifest more

1066
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:36.440
of what we've been teaching.

1067
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:38.600
So keep a lookout, keep a lookout for that.

1068
00:51:38.600 --> 00:51:39.600
It's gonna be awesome.

1069
00:51:39.600 --> 00:51:41.400
Love you guys, take care, talk soon.